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by Timebase {aka Krome & Time}

Awesome AND / BUT computer systems are not enough... more work WITH people is needed, growing communication skills and the lives of others towards more of the same? 

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Great in many ways AND such speed is phenomenal...

Now the real 'next level' beyond systems to install is to actually invest time to talk with everyone and improve our ability to talk to each other... (this is not happening often enough in depth in most places / anywhere)

(That's the first small TLDR - more explained below)

I say this to you attempting the people-building stuff like I was a veteran for trying - homeless on the Fediverse as a result...
because mostly:

--> People are not investing in people (as it takes time / really they are not interested / want to keep separate but somehow want the world to be together)

--> Not wanting to doing the crushing mind work on their own life or with others, this is a big problem. Also another kind of

---> Not wanting to follow in the another person's mind for a while to see 'ah right they have a point even though big parts I'm not sure about and thought they were crazy at first'

Basically making friends with strangers... ⬅️ CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT?!!
(said like it was the obvious funny thing to say and not shouting too loud either)

So I'm just asking can you do that? Would you be willing to try? (this is not any "all-in" question, can be step-by-step but is naturally a bit connected and demanding to reply / accept others). That is what is needed to build with people not just install systems that 'could' connect us like we already before if not as rich.

You have done great - but perhaps all is in one way.
Machines. Code. Not people.

The "radical" work and real change is doing "the people-work" as the main system change, and then slowly gather together the best of us to do better in more things.

➡️ That's starting 1 to 1 or 2/3 people ... 1 to many ... then many to many... (a mix also but chaos can also undo progress so from left to right first 1-to1 we can even do openly here)

So I suggest dealing with our own stuff, on / with / for others but ultimately keeping in touch almost until the end and even finding others to help do the same.

This gets real advanced when the :XP: "XP" points of the people in life increases and not just in machine installing or constantly changing code - it's dealing with why people are too afraid of their own shadow or humanity out there and measurably dealing with that. Our communication practice and confidence needs improving and "upgrading" (the arrival of computers were good but also now distraction)...

Nothing other than using the magic card of "time"and "reply" button does this. I admit it helps to have a nicer profile but at the end it's not about the aesthetics or even names online - you could be called 123 for all we need to talk because there are some who are like 'give me your name or I give you nothing' at some point and quit out. Those that still don't get pseudonyms or how outside oppression works to track people down- obviously could be explained or shown.

I really like how many things you've covered and the systems you've bought / installed / tried and tested....

Now walk with me a bit about ... as are not enough /to actually do the people work / we've had enough of what channels we've had for a while now and mostly done it as one-way 'system' things instead of "people-growing-people system"...

To improve just computer systems is not quite all of it but the various 'communication' protocols people have and can learn so they don't immediately falter when others have a slightly different way because simply they are just different / unique but in the same/similar ways!

Yours Sincerely

HINT 1: "The rebellion will be federated" — Elena Rossini

It's not just about the Tech barons though - it's about the average person that can't do a lot of people work... daily / weekly. (a lot is with excuses about 'time' but they spend a lot of it online not actually making friends, instead hating Trump perhaps)

HINT 2: reply here or DM to start building at least if you see someone here / me that is able to reply. You will get a lot that can't or people that reply 1 or 2 things and consider it too much already to do more as if that is not the cause of lack of depth in life).

You can't do this the same way as computer installed things
because improving other people themselves needs other people with that... best way I can think of to improve everything else, more than anything else I can think of.

Your Sincerely

@rwg @nate ⭐+1⭐ for the text version which allows a quick look and on old systems works a treat or even modern system sometimes needs a fall back...

A simple slides system though some images didn't load, a lot - although I have flakey internet, still reloading didn't make a difference...

So feel free to check or chalk that one on me, and hence another good version of it would be the all-in-1 PDF or very similar 1 file... is that possible?

The Sony PS-F9 made its debut 41 years ago, and it’s been a style icon ever since.

IS IT ALL THE SAME #Algorithm - Capitalist Monopoly - #TickTok vs. #Facebook #Meta, #Twitter #X, #Instagram, #Bluesky #YouTube #Google #Goverment 

@randahl
Agree about from and a or two here...

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IS IT ALL THE SAME?
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🔴 If vs. , , , are all the same types of then it seems like a lot of / happening.

⬇️ Sounds like these similar types of phrases below ...
(please correct / add ➕ your version )

🔴 " It's not when we do it "

🔴 " If other countries do the same we do, it's called terrorism
- we are Freedom fighters so it's different..."

🔴 Other " fighters" are terrorists. Only space for our version of Freedom / / Monopoly only.

🔴 " Only we get to do the and because that's also a we want to control! "

I might be confusing a with here in this post - but also that seems like a 'company' of sorts with it's own similar pattern (as company or company helping provide it with ) - so it's hard to separate these kinds of competitive and territorial entities, one setup within the other.


➡️ or other 'smaller' /

⬇️ and good points by others below...

💬 " The tiktok ban boils down to "it's only okay to use these practices to try and control the if WE do it". "
💬 said by Karlpybara🦥 @karlpybara

and

💬 "... algorithms' on American public ?" ❓
💬 by @osiris

⬆️ Above from thread:
mastodon.social/@randahl/11382

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affect the whole world and those who uses it, not just
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So these sort of and arguments from same people [ etc] have demonstrated their full alignment with what seem always about the same , , / , using other people's etc... to make their country and " " seem great...

@randahl The tiktok ban boils down to "it's only okay to use these shady practices to try and control the population if WE do it".

The US wants to ban TikTok, because they know that social network algorithms can be abused to prioritize content in a way that manipulates the public discourse.

That is fair. But what about how algorithms on American social media can be used to manipulate the public discourse in the EU?

Have you seen any EU politicians demanding algorithmic transparency from US social media available in the EU? Or can Elon Musk freely promote the far right in Europe algorithmicly, with no pushback from Europe?

Import of pipeline natural gas into the EU halved after the closure of the Ukrainian pipeline.

The total volume has halved.

The #Turkstream pipeline through Turkey and Bulgaria remains active, serving mainly #Hungary and #Serbia (pre-war contracts) but:
- #Bulgaria increased the transit fee
- #Ukraine is trying to attack the pumping station in #russia
- #Turkey wants to create a new company to buy gas from russia and sell to the #EU

source: bruegel.org/dataset/european-n

#UkraineRussiaWar #Bruegel

✨ The rebellion will be federated & self-hosted ✨

On Dec 5, 2024 I published this blog post elenarossini.com/2024/11/the-r on @ele@elenarossini.com

On Dec 17 I signed up for a #VPS.

On Dec 22 I installed #GoToSocial and began personalizing my little corner of the #Fediverse: @elena

On Jan 14 I installed #Pixelfed on my server: @ele@photos.elenarossini.com

Yesterday I installed #LinkStack on elena.social

All this feels really empowering and I wanna help others do the same! 🚀

#selfhosting #FOSS

rage, politics, fuckery 

There is ANOTHER PRIVATE SECURITY/PARALEL POLICE FORCE OPERATING IN MONTREAL AND FUCKING WITH THE HOMELESS?!! The next time someone tells me Plante/Project Montreal are communists it will be a toss up between laughing so hard I puke on them or bashing them in the face until my hand stops being hand shaped.

Fauxgressive bullshit makes me mad, but this shit PLUS the massive, insane, disconnected from reality and accounting, police budget? WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?

💬 "it wouldn't have worked if you *hadn't* believed that he was capable of solving your problem for you." 

@TimWardCam @kirch Oh wow

⬇️ This comment just did it for me - I will to sleep with this in mind today - Excellent... (copy below in case your post disappears)

"There was a "programming advisor" in the Cambridge computer lab who worked like that.

His job was to answer questions from people who couldn't make their code work. A sort of real time human Stack Overflow. 1970s.

You queued up outside his door. When it was your turn you explained your problem to him, confident that his expertise was such that he'd be able to tell you what you were doing wrong and fix it for you.

But part way through explaining the problem to him you realised for yourself what the solution was ... so you said "thanks" and walked away without the guy ever having to open his mouth.

Of course it wouldn't have worked if you *hadn't* believed that he was capable of solving your problem for you."

⬆️ from: c.im/@TimWardCam/1138320223925 / @TimWardCam

@louis @kirch
It's re-thinking perhaps 😉 so I'd say both...

So this 'extra' step (which has only been made within modern times) helps people see and consider words more even by needing to type it in etc - like looking up things in a book or transcription of audio (which I do) or anything done again...

It helps a ton to learn that way and re-think every word / sentence and repeat things to get more of a meaning and context to what I'm doing, why and what source it doing and why...

Seems minor to comment but for learning is important to even 'over' do it / rediscover / go over again.

Sound boarding :...used figuratively to describe a person who listens to a speech or proposal in order that the speaker may rehearse or explore the proposition more fully"...

from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sounding

@kirch There was a "programming advisor" in the Cambridge computer lab who worked like that.

His job was to answer questions from people who couldn't make their code work. A sort of real time human Stack Overflow. 1970s.

You queued up outside his door. When it was your turn you explained your problem to him, confident that his expertise was such that he'd be able to tell you what you were doing wrong and fix it for you.

But part way through explaining the problem to him you realised for yourself what the solution was ... so you said "thanks" and walked away without the guy ever having to open his mouth.

Of course it wouldn't have worked if you *hadn't* believed that he was capable of solving your problem for you.

@louis Coincidentally I just made a post about (music clip)

But if you're interested in growing CommUNITY 😉 with your programming let me know. I'm not a big fish for money (just saying up front) but happy to really talk, be responsive and live it as I am already...

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⬇️ IDEAS + COMMENTS FROM THREAD BELOW ⬇️ linuxrocks.online/@rose/113844

🔴 💳
@rose
💬 Something like a

🔴 PRIVACY / BANK TRACKING
@dangoodin
💬 The tracking of your hourly whereabouts, your purchases and your contacts seems like a high price to me. YMMV.

🔴 💸 RISK OF CASH
@iagox86
💬 ... I imagine the risk of robbery balances is higher than the transaction cost (at least in their mind).

🔴 💸 NO NEED PROTECTION FOR SMALL ITEMS
@femme_mal
💬 I don't need the protections a card offers on purchases of fresh vegetables at the local farm market but the purchase of hard goods like a new refrigerator certainly merits them.

🔴 💳 Card Convenience
@jawnsy
💬 Convenience is why SCADA systems are accessible on the Internet 🫣

🔴 💳 + 💸 Cash and Card
@lxskllr
💬 I'm cash everywhere aside from online purchases.

🔴 Loyalty Card = Tracking
@lauren
💬 Given the widespread use of loyalty cards to get the best prices, even paying with cash doesn't stop tracking.

🔴 Marketing should be illegal?
@kmstrube81
💬 I wonder if computers were a mistake and if marketing should be illegal.

🔴 TRUST ?
@lpar
💬 I trust Apple more than I trust random merchants, though. I wouldn't trust Google, since they're an advertising company.

🔴 SMALL BUSINESS SAME AS BIG BUSINESS (just smaller scale?)
@aapis / mastodon.world/@aapis/11384487
💬 uh yes, duh? This hypothetical woman is trying to profit, yes? She’s trying to make her a success, yes? So are the Starbucks execs, the only difference is scale. If this woman had the power and available to Starbucks, what would be different about her stores?

🔴 CAN'T TRUST GOVERNMENT
@dangoodin
💬 ... the in my country is 100% dysfunctional ...
Self remedies are the best sort of remedies.
... Expecting to provide all the answers is also a losing battle. infosec.exchange/@dangoodin/11

🔴 GOVERNMENTS FOR THE LONG-TERM WAY
@wavefunction
💬 Governments are the only means we have to actually "win" the battle. If it's you versus a corporation, you're already losing. They will always have more power and resources than an individual and will always spend more than you to make it their way.

🔴 RISK AS AN EXCUSE?
@dangoodin
💬 The people complaining about having cash stolen are usually the same ones carrying an $800 phone in their pocket.

🔴 NEEDED PROTECTION
@shansterable@c.im
💬 In 2023, the King County council in state voted to require businesses to accept cash because it was becoming such an issue.

🔴 LESS TAXES
@tyn
💬 defund the !

🔴 GIFT CERT / CARD @epicdemiologist
💬 large gift (via )

🔴 CASH COST TIME / ACCOUNTING AFTER
@jarek@mastodon.online
💬 Handling cash costs money too... Accounting... translates to employee ... I think your local is naive.
+
💬 ...(costs of processing cash, costs of , ease with which cash can be skimmed off by employees, risk of robbery, etc). @thomasareed

🔴 SMALL CONSIDERATIONS HARD TO COUNT
@bluGill
💬 It is hard to figure out what the real cost of cash is as so many of those things seem like little and so you don't count.

🔴 Tipping considerations...
@thomasareed
💬 a lot more personal, private, and potentially more deliberate.

🔴 CASH FOR THOSE WITH NO BANK 🏦
💬 ...businesses that don't accept cash are being against people who don't have access to banks accounts, such as homeless, extreme low income, or newcomers to our country. It's a way of "keeping the riffraff out" their businesses.
@OhOkKay

🔴 MONERO ALTERNATIVE :bitcoin:
💬 even would be less expensive than !
@kkarhan

🔴 CASH RECEIPTS 📋
💬 A lot of restaurants in won’t produce a receipt if you pay in cash.
@canleaf

⬆️ Above posts from thread: linuxrocks.online/@rose/113844

@Viss @dangoodin I've been running my own email servers for decades and I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

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