Pat @Pat@qoto.org

@mc

That's not true.

@freemo

1) The argument that says that some people wear masks incorrectly; that argument can also be used against the recommendation that people should wear N100 masks to protect themselves against the irresponsible maskless.

2)Even a full face mask is not 100%. The best melt-blown filters (N100/P100) are 99.97% effective when they are brand new and worn perfectly. A full face mask often comes in contact with hair which allows leakage. If you can come up with a solution that can stop the virus, you can certainly come with a solution that stops a .22 rimfire from pistol.

The point is, it should not be on me to wear protection to stop a lethal assault from someone else -- they should be prevented from firing those bullets (viruses) at me. And if they try to, then I have a right to use the minimal amount of force necessary to protect myself from that assault.

@metalcrow

You can use DLS or AEPS as an option.

responding to freemo...

1) Wearing a mask while staying at a distance significantly decreases the risk of infecting someone else with the virus.

2) By that same twisted logic: No one should prevent me from pointing a gun at people because they are 100% capable of protecting themselves by wearing kevlar body armor and other shielding to stop the bullets.

Also, the highest rated filters N100/P100 are not 100% even when they are brand new and worn properly (assuming you can find one from a reliable source). And there is not enough supply for everyone.

Assume a population infection rate of 2% (actual rate, not positive test rate). That's like placing fifty .22 pistols on a table with one of them loaded. So you are saying it is okay to pick up one of the pistols at random and point it in random directions while pulling the trigger. Chances are it's not loaded. And if it is, chances are you won't hit anybody and if you do hit someone, there's a good chance that a .22 is not going to kill them. Therefore it's okay to pull that trigger, it okay to not wear a mask near other people. That's absurd.

Regarding amorality. It's not amoral to compel another person to abstain from negligent actions that have potentially lethal consequences.

#mask #2A #Covid19 #vaccine

@freemo

1) Wearing a mask while staying at a distance significantly decreases the risk of infecting someone else with the virus.

2) By that same twisted logic: No one should prevent me from pointing a gun at people because they are 100% capable of protecting themselves by wearing kevlar body armor and other shielding to stop the bullets.

Also, the highest rated filters N100/P100 are not 100% even when they are brand new and worn properly (assuming you can find one from a reliable source). And there is not enough supply for everyone.

Assume a population infection rate of 2% (actual rate, not positive test rate). That's like placing fifty .22 pistols on a table with one of them loaded. So you are saying it is okay to pick up one of the pistols at random and point it in random directions while pulling the trigger. Chances are it's not loaded. And if it is, chances are you won't hit anybody and if you do hit someone, there's a good chance that a .22 is not going to kill them. Therefore it's okay to pull that trigger, it okay to not wear a mask near other people. That's absurd.

Regarding amorality. It's not amoral to compel another person to abstain from negligent actions that have potentially lethal consequences.

#mask #2A #Covid19 #vaccine

I have a #Constitutional
right to carry a #firearm, but I don't have a right to point that #gun at anyone who is not threatening life or property.

Being near someone when you're not wearing a #mask is like pointing a gun at them, but instead of shooting lead it shoots spit -- spit full of viruses. And none of us know for sure whether our gun is loaded or not.

You wouldn't point a gun at someone even if you knew it was unloaded. So why spray viruses at someone, even if you think it's safe?

#Covid-19 has put a gun in each of our hands whether we want it or not. When we breathe it's like pulling the trigger.

If someone approaches me without a mask, I consider that a lethal threat and I will respond accordingly and use only as much force as necessary to defend against that threat.

First I will try to escape. If I can't do that I will tell them to stop and let them know that they are threatening my life. After that, they have a choice -- they can back off or they can stop breathing.

Holster your weapon, wear a mask.

Darwin discovers toolmaking among primates

Darwin was surprised to find toolmaking among primates on the Galapagos Islands.

This short video taken by one of the sailors on board the HMS Beagle with his cell phone, shows Pepe, a capuchin monkey who was brought aboard the ship, making a tool as Darwin makes his profound discovery. (Darwin is on the left)

(Note: Most phones in the 19th century could only record black and white video with no sound.)

#TruthBeTold #evolution #monkey #Darwin #Galapagos #animal #intelligence

( full res video at:
https://video.qoto.org/videos/watch/ea338baa-1852-4ac7-a1b5-2231217f8e53 )
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#TruthBeTold = A statement that is logically or literally true (or partly true), but seems to imply something that isn't true or is just plain weird. (for rhetoric, logic or propaganda studies... or just for fun)

@freemo @trinsec If you look at it as a Minkowski 4-dimentional spacetime, causality is simply the rules for the relationship between Planck time units along the 4th dimension (assuming quantized time). We experience that spacetime as an incremental arrow-like progression along the 4th dimension. When information "travels" back to a lower point on the 4th dimension, as would happen when something at a later point in time (along the 4th dimension) also physically exists at an earlier point in time, then it's like making a non-linear or non-contiguous causal link to a lower point along the 4th dimension. An observer outside of the 4D spacetime doesn't experience "time" so you can't really say there are iterations as such because iterations require time and there is no such thing as time outside of spacetime itself. It just seems weird or paradoxical to us because we are stuck in this unidirectional arrow of experience along the 4th dimension.

@freemo I think a better idea would be something that would charge it via a passive activity, like something you'd wear around your ankle that would continually charge it all day as you walked around. Kind of like the old mechanical self-winding watches, but it'd be an electric linear magneto instead.

@freemo I don't even to need to look at the proposal to know this is a scam. You don't need to read any further than the word "limitless" to know it's a scam.

Actually, devices that can produce that amount of power by hand cranking at 60rpm have been around a long time, but they don't fit on a key ring. E.g., a hundred-year-old telephone magneto will produce up to 100V at a few hundred mA. (It's geared to achieve a higher effective rpm.)

@freemo
yeah, I was already thinking about the minimum and maximum possible sum of the first X jars, or the last Y jars, based on the the first jars, etc...

@freemo @Absinthe @math
Alright, I'll keep chugging away at it...

Some more thoughts: Maybe the switching of papers doesn't communicate anything at all, but merely alters the distribution so that a guessing algorithm will find the answer...

Maybe I'll sleep on it.

@freemo @Absinthe @math
Ok. Let me ask just one hint...

Does a solution require a knowledge of statistics? Like some formula involving Greek letters?

@freemo @Absinthe @math
It doesn't need to communicate every one, it just needs to communicate a characteristic about the distribution so that, say, only the right or left 49 need to be opened when guessing.

@freemo @Absinthe @math

1. try to devise a way to split the row into thirds to narrow the possibilities.

2. each of the pots would have a pair so that each pair would add up to 101. (not sure how that's useful at the moment...)

3. the assistant could add up the first N pots in the sequence; or add up pots in sequence until reaching 5050/2 and mark that location by switching; or add up the pots in sequence until reaching some other meaningful number; or a combination of similar techniques.

4. the switching of papers can communicate both the number that is switched and a position.

5. an absolute position of switching does not need to be agreed upon with the assistant in advance and could be relative to some other predetermined attribute which is itself based on the position of a predetermined number or attribute that could be found in the row.

I really don't know anything about statistics other than a very basic required course which has nearly all been forgotten years ago, so I probably won't be able to get this one, but I think one or more of the techniques described above may be involved in the solution.

@freemo @Absinthe @math
Are the jars made of glass? Is it transparent glass? Are the labels adhiesive labels?

Sorry. Felt like being a jerk...

@freemo
Yes, privacy comes before any possible discrimination, both chronologically and logically. In the US it used to be mandatory to disclose health history when applying for health insurance, but I think they changed that now.

Disclosure may also be necessary if one needs to request reasonable accommodations for a disability (e.g., from an employer), and there are specific rules on how that all works in the US.

@freemo
One more thing...

I think one of the factors that differentiates the two is that vaccine status is something that people (eventually) will have control over (in most cases), while preexisting health conditions are often not under the control of the moral patient.