@saitei indeed
Apparently "think of the children!" Is the current strategy to justify violating your privacy rights, its disgusting.
@spazzpp2 Neither, I am pointing out why current inference off of correlation is invalid as it doesnt protect agains the fallacy I mentioned. So we cant use it as evidence to draw conclusions.
Proper analysis would have to use granger causality at a minimum (and when you do any evidence for masks appears to dissolve)
@stux I cant tell if you are:
1) Telling the store to run quickly
2) Making a run to a place called the Quick Store
3) Making a quick run to a generic store
@swiley concise, to the point, and correct :) lol
I doubt most people can effectively use a mask for 2 days let alone 2 weeks
Using resperators in a noninfectious setting or even just professional settings in general, isnt really comparable. You have entire facilities and teams setup to support that process. If you need a sip of water you have clean rooms and decontamination arches you can pass through etc.
You simply cant replicate the rigor of a hazmat environment in the general public on a day to day basis for hours on end.
I disagree, even with full training I dont think people will use masks effectively. The human nature to fidget, take sips of water, etc will override any train. For masks to be effective the discipline for most people is simply to great. Even surgeons have entire teams of people helping them to make it managable.
@spazzpp2 No because the post hoc ergo procter hoc fallacy. For example in areas that wear more masks we might see a decline because people are more cautious in other ways (avoid time in public). Which makes sense since the more scared a populace is the more likely they are to engage in a multitude of protective behaviors of which mask wearing is only one.
@Pat
I addressed why a virus that under normal conditions is primarily airborn might still be an issue in the case of a mask. Largely because its half life on surfaces in the wild doesnt apply when talk about damp/humid environments like a face mask where it would easily survive (unlike natural surfaces)
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@Pat
Lolol i usually see people walking with a mask down by their chin thinking its doing something there somehow lol
@bonifartius @blueplanetslittlehelper @zleap
@Pat
I think there is no denying that under ideal conditions a respirator will effectively filter viruses. I myself dont dispute that part. I just feel that benefit is completely negates and even increases transmission when people actually use them in the wild due to the level of rigor it takes doe them to be effective.
Anyone who sips a drink effectively is turning something that reduces transmission into something that increases it.
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