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@johnabs

Actually as a male I'd say if an unattractive woman hits on me my just staring at my junk or my ass, I'd be flattered.

Only time id feel bad by it is if they are getting handsy or insisting they get something from me I dont want to give. But if its simply compliments and staring, and if they respect whatever boundaries I put up, then I would be nothing but overjoyed whether the woman is attractive or not.

That said I do agree, asking would probably be met with weird reactions and unfavorable responses for both sexes just because its just a weird thing to ask. But from the male perspective since I think most males would love someone "checking them out" im not sure there is a need to ask or the awkwardness that comes. Women on the other hand wouldnt be so enthused with the staring so its a differnet equation.

@Mary625@mstdn.social Its a world were people with good intentions are their own worst enemies. Most democrats, and even many republicans, are well intentioned. But they are so bogged down by idealism and dogma at the surface and fighting with people over being nuanced, that they turn into raging asshats most of the time on both sides. Which is just making things worse.

@Mary625@mstdn.social

I agree with this, I mean there is no way Trump could get me to vote for him, no recovering it. There are things biden can do (like apologize for his racism and show sincerity in that effort) but he never would, so looks like no **real** hope for Biden either.

A non-biden democratic nominee who I could begrudgingly support would be the best I can hope for at this point. Even the third party candidates arent looking so great right now (but still better than Biden or Trump).

@RL_Dane

So the price for an implant, no frills, in the USA is $1,500. So I am guessing it is multiple implants for something above the basic implant.

Just wanted to put some numbers to this.

@NanoBookReview

So apparently there is a morning after STD pill now and my only thought is, will this have a net positive effect? I could see this being a license for people to just do away with condoms and may cause more issues than less.

Wither way I am glad people have the choice now.

@Mary625@mstdn.social

If actually made a move like this and rejected his own party I would change my stance and actually consider voting for the guy. Though with Bidens extremely racist track record even then it would be a hard sell. But that would go a long long way to make me consider him.

On the flip side even if Trump pulled this he still wouldnt get my vote. But thats another matter.

@RL_Dane What procedure is this? Must be pretty major. Obviously with major surgeries this isnt surprising, but its hard for me to think of too many dentist stuff where this applies. Is it like a full mouth work up or something?

Cocaine bear was a better movie than I would like to admit... not that it was amazing or anything. But way more watchable than the title suggests.

@realcaseyrollins What is TRP? The first I am seeing it and when looking upt he hashtag it seems to mostly be posts by you or posts in a foreign language.

There is clearly a divide in how men and women thing, and this may come from being treated different. But long and short of it, men generally seem to be thrilled at being cat called or ask explicitly sexual things, at worst we can just ignore it. Things that would be totally unacceptable to a woman... So yea im not sure the logic of men will carry over here, cause if a woman stared at my crotch for however long Id be excited by that even if its a woman im not interested in.

Hard not to look a ripe fruit / mammary glands... 

@freeschool How is it like looking at fruit? I feel like I could stare at fruit all day and no one would be bothered.

@johnabs

So sorry for late response, busy day.

I picked 2 seconds intentionally. I wanted a number that was not so long as to be staring, but long enough that it would be clear it was intentional and not something someone was trying to hide, or accidental.

While your answer about "treat it like the sun" does make sense when accessing where the line is I am particularly curious about this case. More important how it would make the woman feel, would she feel attractive and liked, or would it make her feel bad for some reason i dont fully understand (but instinctually adhere to I guess).

@freemo 2 whole seconds?? At that point just take a picture, it'll last longer :P

The general rule is "If the amount of time you're looking would damage your retinas from looking at the sun at noon during summer, it's too long of a glance". There is a difference between "noticing", "looking", "staring", and 2 solid seconds is straddling the line of the latter two, and the first is universally fine, but that's like 0.5-0.75 seconds.

As an aside, nearly all (more on this below) women know what they're signing up for when the go out dressed a certain way, so don't ask, don't stare, but a passing glance, even if she notices, is likely acceptable, though this depends on the woman and her understanding of male psychology as a function of her dressing habits.

I had to have this conversation with my (then girlfriend) wife about how she was drawing attention to herself with her very tight fitting crop-tops and short shorts. Her mom did some strange parenting to her daughters, so my wife didn't know until I spelled it out and then she was mortified at how men were looking at her. She just thought they were "being friendly" 🤦‍♂️

Question for the women out htere.

Say you are wearing a fairly revealing top but more or less clothed in public. Lets say something that shows a lot of cleavage. If a man you are talking to clearly looks down at your chest, remains with eye contact for a solid 2 seconds, then looks back up, but otherwise is speaking respectfully to you would you say anything? If so what would you say? Regardless of what you would say how would it make you feel or what would think when you notice it.

Similarly, and this seems odd cause I cant imagine a guy doing this and it would seem really awkward/strange to do. But would you feel its more respectful and more appropriate if the guy asked permission to look at your chest rather than just doing it? Does that just add awkwardness and make matters worse (what it seems like in my head) or would you see it as a sign of respect? How would they even ask permission in a respectful way "May I look at your breasts for a few seconds", that just seems weird to me to ask... but hey just curious.

I suspect most women just expect us not to loo, or to try to be sneaky about it?

@frayoshi Erasable ink is great. Sadly I use fountain pens and usually do flex style writing. So as far as I know erasable ink isnt really an option fo rme.

@LouisIngenthron Ahhh ok so you basically thing SCOTUS interpreted the constitution inaccurately.... that could be, I'd need to understand the ruling better to have an opinion.

@frayoshi Also in general I prefer the smallest lead I can get. Usually thats 0.5mm or 0.3mm. But with the rotating lead engine I find thicker ones work well.

@frayoshi Its not actually my main writing tool as I tend to use fountain pens. I also have some very nice higher end metal mechanical pencils I prefer for other features. But as an every day pencil you dont mind loosing it would be my top choice and its great.

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