Show newer

Gary Ackerman Podcast - "Artificial Intelligence" series... 

Gary Ackerman Podcast - "Artificial Intelligence" series...

🎵 Audio Download 🎤 :
bin.dembased.xyz/freeschoolgar

Audio series with @garyackerman / qoto.org/@garyackerman and @freeschool

Thanks for listening (even participating) on the Fediverse! :fediverse:

-----------------
🎤 Part 1 here:
qoto.org/@freeschool/111867522

🎤 Part 2 here:
qoto.org/@freeschool/111908857

🎤 Part 3 here:
qoto.org/@freeschool/111930634

🎤 Part 4: (this audio)
bin.dembased.xyz/y489v2as.ogg

🎤 Part 5: (click follow :follow: & bell 🔔 to get notification)

----------------
FEEDBACK WELCOME

Send your thoughts or rating from 0-10 in comments!

Give your reasoned thoughts for low / high scores (we don't mind !).

---------------------------
NOTES / EXTRA READING:
---------------------------
█ Stephen Jay Gould was mentioned - The Mismeasure of Man (1996)

en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Stephen_

█ The "Hard Problem" refers to the "Hard problem of consciousness" and similar problems around proving or measuring what consciousness and intelligence is

en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Hard_pro

en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Self-awa

AI question:
Who / which set of people is AI serving more:

A- the end user?
B- the owners / suppliers / data handlers / people the data is given to?

Hmmmmmm.... 🤣 🤣 🤣

Bluesky BRIDGE is similar to Fediverse and it's culture? 

Bluesky BRIDGE is similar to Fediverse and it's culture?

Maybe you think it's just like another email provider added?
(No I think)

Notes on DISsimilarities of protocal and providers in the Fediverse context...

TLDR
█1█ It's not using the same protocol for a start - if it was more native then maybe, which is why █2█ is important

█2█ The culture is why we came here, ethics and ethos, promise of no capitalism or concretely less by saying NO to some things...

and why we came here (not there) in the first place...

-------------------
LONGER VERSION: More points
-------------------
Few people mention it's just like email Bluesky being added.... so a bit about that:

█ Email / SMTP protocol is or was mostly the same across all providers, whereas bridging like Bluesky is a more different.

More like mimicking or tapping into our protocol which is more like tapping into our culture / ethos without believing in it/
Not believing in making it more free / less capitalistic selling out (of everything not just data).

It is the main reason why we came here in the first place and why we will also leave if it gets too twitter-like / Bluesky invaded).

If you believe in "Jack Dorsey" then he has quit the project already as a sign of what he thinks.

Jack Dorsey has removed his Bluesky account a while back and not working on it at all other than general board of council, so this as a kind of bar / stronger signal perhaps = not being part of it any more makes it more clear without reading overly into it too much either.

Bluesky =
█ much more commercial entities and culture vs. what we defined as not.
█ and then making the users we were choosing from come back here as personal politics is obviously different endangers us by making it 'too easy' (commercial) again and too uncultured (people who do not choose their servers on principle / no-interest in community or caring about the protocol) is just more of the same reasons for this side of the differences,

Overall lacking of care or detail in life (users and company are different) that is spreading like a cancer for all the providers in the world and it's users. So we learned these lessons many times. Don't let them in, ok they might try but don't invite them! 🤨

█ Mastodon :mastodon: and Fediverse :fediverse: was clearly opposite to many things and just turning this into another kind of snoop-city is not great for me/many.
We see everything converted into the same shit show, from taxis to the next thing...

ℹ️ If interested in more of my view or reasoning, click hashtag for some audio about AI or Bluesky conversations.

vs

Gary Ackerman Podcast - "Artificial Intelligence" series

with @garyackerman / qoto.org/@garyackerman and @freeschool

🎤 Part 1 in series:
qoto.org/@freeschool/111867522

🎤 Part 2:
qoto.org/@freeschool/111908857

🎤 Part 3: (this audio)

🎤 Part 4: (click :follow: & 🔔 to get notification)

Send your thoughts and even a rating from 10 in comments!

Give your reasoned thoughts for low scores in comments (don't mind !).

Follow / click Bell 🔔 to get notified of similar content.

Thanks for listening / participating on the Fediverse! :fediverse:

NOTES / EXTRA READING:

█ Stephen Jay Gould was mentioned - The Mismeasure of Man (1996)

en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Stephen_

█ The "Hard Problem" refers to the "Hard problem of consciousness" and similar problems around proving or measuring what consciousness and intelligence is

en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Hard_pro

en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Self-awa

Like Icarus- are tech people trying to touch the clouds?.... 

Can you imagine how powerful and even good it might feel to have so much power at your finger tips...

Like Icarus- are tech people trying to touch the clouds in the same way?.... to feel that warm glow?

Must be similar - having a mass of electrically-charged information-processing stuff at your finger-tips that can do almost anything - lights blinking like crazy... like an extension of your own being!

Touching and even Owning the clouds... Icarus style: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icarus

Obviously can be too much for one person to "fly too close to the sun", but perhaps many will try and industry knows it too.

In the right hands, it might just win it for us as a more responsible version of the status-quo... called Fediverse but ultimately something will cut somewhere...

So I wouldn't encourage anyone to try to touch the cloud or indeed think it can be all done remotely without A LOT of conscious humanity involved almost before or in between all that industrial BIGTech...

Something more like this for real happiness:
😃 😃 😃 😃 😃 😃 😃
😃 😃 😃 😃 😃 😃 😃
😃 😃 🖥️☁️ 🖥️ 😃 😃
😃 😃 😃 😃 😃 😃 😃
😃 😃 😃 😃 😃 😃 😃

P.S The image is a modification. It shows Icarus flying into a walled garden :ablobwink: 😉

Image Credits (original) - George Tsiagalakis (Wikipedia):

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ika


AI might just be like any other business machine or mechanism - just used by to replace humans ("replaced by robots" style)... 

AI might just be like any other machine or mechanism used by other mankind:

- to save need for human jobs
(and pay them less for more mundane jobs as a result of magnification of specialist or idiot / loser roles)

- to 'save' human decision-making (decrease human friction and get your way more often from top to bottom)

- Top-down-to-Tech-to-Public process as increasing leverage as human communication and skill and real community is reduced / replaced (although admittedly it wasn't perfect but a robot version not great either)

Like if git hub co-pilot can pull coding rendering you obsolete / useless (or good for that supermarket job).

The reason I stick to us and is because there was never really money in good things from bad / col people- they ONLY wanted to take advantage more from people like giving them debt is similar to giving job. We need a better way and even if that's cringe FreeSchool and your stuff / their stuff :) We have enough numbers to "stick it to the man" and that mentality often...

copilot

"replaced by robots"


AI... CONTROLLERS BEHIND A SCREEN... tHINK "wIZARD OF oZ" 

AI... CONTROLLERS BEHIND A SCREEN...

tHINK "wIZARD OF oZ"
(2min video below)

invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=dQ9yY

Tony Heller also explains CENSORSHIP AND PROPAGANDA BEHIND GOOGLE / YOUTUBE ...

#FreeSchool

"Use your intelligence. Not AI"... same eye-candy lure - AI "helps" with more data given away eventually - same again but in a more deeper data ways... 

"Use your intelligence. Not AI"...

Otherwise one day they will switch it off / rug-pull once they you get hooked or dependant on it (I.T.)....."

First it's optional then mandatory
(so many things seen this way)

AI... CONTROLLERS BEHIND A SCREEN...

tHINK "wIZARD OF oZ"

and best way to get consent when majority of ignorance over time and happy AI images forces your vote to be insignificant about it's dangers, , ETC!

Like money and all these devices they actually give, then take away more over time than give... (%'s / inflation / controls / legalities / renaming and repositioning goal posts, rug-pulling carpets, rebranding things at their will etc)

--------------------
Join FreeSchool
Join the Fediverse... Less the AI
:follow: Follow + click bell 🔔 for more... join in....
--------------------

Source:
invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=dQ9yY

💣 !!! IF YOU THINK THIS IS A BUSINESS FOR YOU WHEN IT'S A BUSINESS FOR THEM, YOU WILL GET OUT-GUNNED !!!!! 💣

We the people always made the bricks to castles and we need to slow that down, which is what I'm asking you by not really using at all. It speed their progress more than our progress (we use it for fun but it's not just fun for them).

JoinMastodon.org <--- for those not on already...




AI PixelArt Video Remix: "If you want to survive, a new balance must be found (between us and not them)"... 

Audio " If you want to survive, a new balance must be found..."

between us and not them... Boost 🚀 :boost:

"In normal times, evil would be fought by good, in times like these, now, it should be fought by another kind."

"Use your intelligence. And let's get them... COLD TURKEY!"

--------------------
Join FreeSchool
Join the Fediverse...
:follow: Follow
+ click bell 🔔 for more...
--------------------

JoinMastodon.org <--- for other new people to follow us!...

Source: Demoscene Report
invidious.lunar.icu/watch?v=-m

💣 !!! IF YOU ARE IN THESE SOURCES ===> GET IN CONTACT !!!!! 💣


Audio Reply (~3mins) to Gary Ackerman 🤵 

@garyackerman Audio Reply to Gary Ackerman's AI audio 🤵

(~3mins) Circling around what you see and hear personally when "AI" is being talked about?
Comments welcome.

:follow: Follow & click 🔔 Bell (after follow accepted) to get notified of similar.


Show thread

People that suddenly stop replying... (after people in positions asked about using Google / AI / etc)... 

@wfryer Hi, I am just saying I've sent few messages and seems obvious I'm being ignored or something as you reply to others. Still time but saying things earlier on this side.

I can handle if you like using Google and AI etc but not replying about dangers in your using them in your work-flow / work with others / your practices which shouldn't involve disconnect after being ok to talk initially and with no obvious problem there. So.. Just say how it is!

--------------------------------
The rest below is extra and just writing practice.

The first parts above are the main thing so don't interpret mass below as anything much bigger than you ignoring things / not replying suddenly.
--------------------------------

I am also writing to say I making it clear in this way because frankly people doing this isn't good enough and though it's maybe not personal / direct to me, it is all kinda in the end in some way as so many impersonal things in the world accumulate and add up, so not all your fault at all but you could say *some* more.

Some quotes to make this a bit creative / interesting...

"History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people."
- Martin Luther King, Jr.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
- Edmund Burke.

And maybe it's ok to be imperfect...

"There are no good people, only good actions" - Andrew Patricio

So this needs solving (in teaching, in tech etc, in many things) and just saying I never aimed to harass any teacher that doesn't answer(!)... but having a position or claiming to do things right naturally involves a bit of flack and like I suggested make a FAQ page to answer people who ask why you use non-FLOSS stuff... or if I have it wrong just say so (a bit).

I can't even accept 'too busy' at this point as you're too good replying / doing things elsewhere. Totally I can accept "I like Google because xyz and AI as it save me time regardless of danger down the line of giving my data to them" - in short - I'll accept that.

I hope you wouldn't expect anything less than someone trying to sort out why people disconnect in the world and what it's basically and deliberately being politically silent... which in the end does say things or leave others to their own conclusions or wondering why. Not that I'm not trying to make too fast a judgement but obviously you were happy to talk before and suddenly not now 🤔

So that's my respect given to you in saying directly "hey I'm waiting" and not behind your back complaining, as you see from those who don't get a bit of answer obviously in the world already. I wrote to you about BigTech and war without putting all on you but hey you tell me.

You have opportunity to say else you're free to ignore (and happy even to receive that as message).

I reserve re-drafting this especially if I review myself as wrong in some way or can better say it... but thought it better written earlier than never.

Thanks.

Cold Machines and Cold People!? (we need warmer processes)... 

Cold Machines and Cold People!?

(caring doesn't come as a cold machine, server or cold process)....

People are not going to work well inside templates of and general mentality. Must be warmer!

Cold Machines and Solider-like people *AI*nt it.


If you start using AI and then AI starts using you, are you going to be shocked?... 

If you start using AI and then AI starts using you, are you going to be shocked like Wizard of Oz characters?

The same people and Capitalistic template are behind Industrial Tech... Don't be shocked at the end even with the domestic supply.

It's efficient mainly to do what they want, more than Freedom and actually caring! Just another machine in .

AI = Artificial Increase / pushing up prices... Arbitrary Increase for profit... 

AI helps 'Artificially' increase prices and it's all to maximise profits for them more than us.

To force people to pay more using whatever Tech that will help them.

(Kind of like IBM helping track / count people in the genocide, though no proof my side and speculation probably that there could be such coldness of selling tech for whatever reason.)

I believe already this is arbitrary increase is already happening but with AI make doom quicker...

Basically as demand increases so does price but way deeper than that.

Will be worse IF domestic levels of people accept it into their homes and hand over their data and daily usage habits a bit like Facebook did / does... < = = all priceless survey type stuff for the AI suppliers allowed to see what you're using while you to use their 'services'.

AI = Another Invasion
or
AI = Arbitrary Increase

Arbitrary Increase is mankind's doom,..
------------------
♦♦♦ PART 2 BELOW.... Optional ♦♦♦
------------------
█▄ike your local supermarket when you buy lots of the same item ( 🔔 this tells them it's too cheap' 🔔 )

█▄ike when you're booking your flight tickers for airplanes 🛩️ :kirby_fly: and ticket prices creep up on the sister sites strangely, because they know what you're looking for now and prices go up as time passes and you search more
(They see what you need and push prices up everywhere so you have no choice on all sites which is why you do better to pay quicker than 'shopping around')

█ Clever AI... working behind the screen (for the the company people) to make targetting easier... while people think it's faster for them (maybe for a quick second but not long-term).

█ Sentiments here of 'sale' when it's not really a sale. Also I worked in supermarket and shocking how things increase (and seeing all the old tickets for same products even a month back... much cheaper and "sale" only after pushing up prices!)

tilde.zone/@gemlog/11187479417

Artificial Intelligence... is it me or doesn't 'Artificial' in it's name give away mostly what it is?... 

Artificial Intelligence... is it me or doesn't 'Artificial' in it's name give away what it is?

Like:
artificial flavouring
artificial additives
artificial people
artificial flowers
artificial insemination
artificial info (from computer
and who knows who behind it)
artificial screen
artificial as in aesthetics of maybe info we could get some other way more direct

At least partly in each sense of these words
where "artificial" is not usually wanted and often faked
on top as another layer, manipulated by other people / BigBiz + Governments mostly


@garyackerman Podcast Cover Art + ADD YOUR IMAGES / MEMES / DIAGRAMS that visually explain AI - will be handy for speakers in debate -

Attribution-free images welcome or your own drawings.

Example you can cut and paste... and even remix = Pixabay.com pixabay.com/images/search/arti

Or sketch yourself a pic and send!




Show thread

'FREE' people and inventions also have a responsibility to see who is abusing it and basically make provisions / conditions / choose more carefully. Block them from weaponizing

Weaponizing* everything is very real today.

* Weaponizing = the putting of parts / components / code together (much like mechanical parts) and making a gun at the end from those innocent components - the end result of the chain is bad.

So what to do about it?

To start
- Don't under-estimate how well chains are put together or swap things in and out
- Imaging more 'efficient' can mean more destructive / faster at doing the bad / inhuman things. If it exist and work, no need x10 speed every year.

Even with 'Free' stuff / software / service / etc consider them as Free weapons and tools for people to plugin into their own mentality - so it's worth checking even if if you think something new is just great because it's 'new'... Keep a lid on it if really it has 10% good use and x10 bad.

Ask: IS IT WORTH GIVING TO IDIOTS?

Asl: COULD I USE IT FOR NON-FREE WAYS EASILY WITHOUT THE SPIRIT OR GOOD-WILL OF FREE-SOFT OR FREEDOM.

Sound$ extreme but it's just like giving part$ to people who you know just make algorithm and monetise people instantly with this years new thing. It's already happening. etc... <--- I don't have list I admit and often I think 'everything is applied to'

Considering top 500 companies (enemies) run on free software and pay near-0 for it as side-insult and don't even care then I think there is ALWAYS a time in history to re-assess adding any more for them or specifically releasing things for us (not U$)

To use it for money should be stipulated conditionally NO or WITH PERMISSION ONLY THEN YOU CAN ALSO GIVE ME A CUT!

Not-for-profit also needs to skill-up and pre-defend things so we don't the shock face after- "oh guess what they did now- I don't believe it!".

Ok so far but from here consider all is just to make massive wrong in the wrong ways...


,

Qoto Mastodon

QOTO: Question Others to Teach Ourselves
An inclusive, Academic Freedom, instance
All cultures welcome.
Hate speech and harassment strictly forbidden.