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EXPLAINING / MEASURING DIGNITY ? (SOMEWHAT)

I think or feel like it's also about measuring that somehow but the kind of 'measuring' without falling into the trap of objectifying it and more like how you said the dignity side which is something totally abstract to most people above a a certain depth so when put into words and paper it might be more than that (also might be ignored but something you can refer to or wave people at and say "what about fulfilling dignity" or something like that)

The word privacy is a bit like "shelter, food for all" or "saving a life" but no way power to that other than words - so in the lower components as 'dignity' might be it seems good to define and NOT just the rule-makers crappy definition or 'one-size fit's all' thing they can defer or gloss over)...

So if you have a way to make that more of a substance ESPECIALLY for those that don't genuinely understand or even "feel" or "have sympathy" because I think steady people don't feel or understand GENUINELY or because of layers (and yes ignore if rules don't tell them to do something)

So then something of an object (or whatever I'm trying to explain here without objectifying it) is really important it feels so it's not just one sided "feeling" and other "not feeling / dismissing because they can't feel or have definition)...

know what I mean?

I think you made a good start and it even be literally be copied and pasted into separate lines, and added to by others to see what it builds... as a subset to something often unsaid...

Let me know what you think, thanks

Your privacy is not a thing in and of itself, that you either have or don't. Privacy is your ability, and capacity, to choose for yourself what you share about yourself, and when, and with who. And the other word we have for that is "dignity".

Privacy is the agency you have over your dignity.

"A private social network" only makes sense in through this lens, of people wanting a social environment where they have agency over what they share, when, and with who.

It's a reasonable thing to want.

@meowViewer No probs and thanks for reply.

Hope the error message helps to see what it is...

My archive is
~1.5gb with some media incl;
- pics + mp4 that this server allows bigger more than others - not sure if that would break anything

Would be ok if it skipped anything and said the names at the end and I can extract it from archive after manually,

~9K posts total...

💡 As a test idea for you or user, there could be "ONLY posts and pics" checkbox to see if that works for people...and then they could try fully without filer with other formats and types to see if that is where error might be happening... 💡

Hi wondering if anyone knows you made the Mastodon

- I'd like to ask if they could add pictures to the backup posts

- and paginated results rather than infinite scroll

OTHER EFFORTS
1/ bovine.social/mastodon
(No pics linked tho)

2/ @raymondcamden also attempted here for website:
raymondcamden.com/2024/07/04/b

3/ meow!
purr.neocities.org

Comments might interest... @Hejny qoto.org/@freeschool/113194907

@Hejny @L29Ah @cweickhmann @trinsec
Export Viewer failed - screenshot shows @meowViewer

purr.neocities.org/ (can try it with own backup, is supposed to process in browser)

Failed with Firefox version 115.8 (almost latest) with Mastodon v3.2.1 export (on this server).
The tar.gz downloaded / unpacked ok so doesn't seem that.

1/ Anyone have a guess what error means?...

2/ Anyone have a smaller post archive with only a few posts in backup export file that I can use just for testing this tool?
(like if you are a new user can you export your data and DM me a link to safe upload site like dragging the file to the drop box style thing here: bin.dembased.xyz/)

Anybody got this working ok, also let me know and your basic setup (browser, mastodon version).... Thanks

@stevetex 2 things:

1. Slow progress can be made (against the grain of the same-old mentality of corporations)

but

2. Corporations ARE GOVERNMENT to a large extent

2.1 = Governments create / maintain / do deal with their subsidiaries (kinda the whole military point of a 'company' is to recruit and register more people to do more contract work

2.2 = Gov and Company are on same team largely so feels better than free (imagine you get all the data eventually)

So it's a bit of a 50/50 for a feeling forever but people can push others to use it "free trial" or via 'less spending monthly' reasons etc to get them past the post of worry... into free / doing things slightly different,

Example: Microsoft Word

Imagine how long it too to get a MS Word equivalent or compatible program or docx type (I mean real 1;1 compatible not just mangles your formatting and whole look!...

And then the other way around in being able to *give people* your version without MS Word saying "eh? this isn't text"

So since we got better compatibility, tools and other stuff it might be ok... but also wasn't 1:1 or was too steroided up to begin with as proprietary and also let's face it a bit more classy 'looking' or idiot proof sometimes (icons etc).

Example - Mastodon
You cannot even export data to a human readable view! Twitter exports to same navigation look with all post and pics OFFLINE.
Mastodon didn't even make backup exports viewable! :blobrofl: :blobrofl: :blobrofl:
I wouldn't have invested my time if i knew that... literally if my server goes I have to be a near programming genius to simply link a directory of pictures to a JSON file...

2024 UPDATE: Someone else had a go making a offline viewer for Mastodon export (compressed .tar.gz <---- I mean that's going to throw people off for a start but ok it's like zip of pics and JSON <--- wtf is json? Ok whatever back to Twitter!!(

So the answers I have for poor Mastodon people all these years of non-movable / almost not-viewable "backup" data is:

1/ ➡️ @meowViewer
purr.neocities.org
(I think this links pics also because the one below was only text)

2/ ➡️ bovine.social/mastodon/

Try the first with a backup - I'm trying mine out now... so ask me later if you want...


🏆 ? 🏆

To give people a chance is for you and others, not just who you are giving to

But often even harmless chance is not given over the internet... You can see people don't want to give much at all - even similar thoughts - this is a reflection of real life I suppose and what needs sorting. B allowing people and testing things long than half day patchy talk... things might take off!

With just a few days’ notice, Mozilla terminated my employment this month after leaving me hanging on leave without for several months. My discrimination case against them therefore enters a new phase after this wrongful termination.
mastodon.social/@stevetex/1127

@gabriel @hazlin @adiz Unfortunately he was patchy in terms of answers or trying. I think you said it well first time, and simply trying do less sin (which is hard in default level of sin "system" we have voluted to now and if we try team up with more non-commercial (even those not perfect but heart in right place to get better / stay at the table of comms) then we'll be doing well...

At the same time of having emotions or fear or whatever, people really must act like there isn't much time or actual risk from individuals half the planet away or with the 1% not to disconnect at first signs of issue-taking before trying and testing more (not you but Christians in general don't walk the walk often, even online where it easy / harmless to give chance, but even chance people don't want to give - lol new slogan )

@bonifartius Wasn't the 'BEST' keygen music but still worthy the nostalgia
- even volumes wasn't sorted on some those tracks and really like "oh fuck turn that off" suddenly waking people next door to that eclectic clunky 8bit - full blast for 5 seconds
🤣 lol 🤣

@mangeurdenuage @bonifartius Fun times, yes I think have my best kept somewhere :)

Your faves from this list?

Mine is 3rd one, bit 80's :)

invidious.privacyredirect.com/

The "tsht" is my favourite sound !
boom "tsht" boom "tsht"
boom "tsht" boom "tsht-tsht" "tsht"

Thanks for the heads up on this

1/ More Governanc - by who? 2/Free for them or us ? 3/ Trusting USA history and it's companies? (adverts / mining) 4/ People's mindset & links need training / educating 5/ Putting more signs on door THIS XYZ IS NOT PERMITTED / NO CONSENT 

@bonfire Just as a check I wrote about my considerations or questions...

"More Governance" ?
So I hope it's not so open to the extent Government can use it as "More Governance" like a kind of Google using "more Open Source" and all the mainstream using Linux servers badly for ad-farms basically on all websites - because still those type don't even contribute back themselves (even to code or much)

and people get sucked into making THOSE components better for them to come collect like gems to make a bigger monster... And viola a new bigger monster every year while we are maybe happy with some tools claiming to be anti.

So Point #1
They are not keeping the spirit.
We can expect it. How does that work when it's a free for all for even them...

It really is like giving good work to bad people unless there is a clause or 100 there to keep the spirit.

I might have a point there because I like openness but staying after work and giving it to bad people is the same even though we love coding... and making things faster... but not good until people use it wisely.

I'd really rather we think longer and have less. Openness without sign or conditions on door and without our blood stain to keep respect for humanity, is dangerous.
Somewhat giving the game to them or anyone that wants to sell / mine data.

Point #2: Users being weakest link so need more training / helping instead of giving more tools or scope - again dangerous, do we want a Mastodon and add components around like Twitter?

USERS ARE THE WEAKEST LINKS
- SO UPGRADE THE PEOPLE's BEHAVIOUR AND MINDSET IS NEED - NO NEED FOR MUCH MORE CODE OR UPGRADES...

Maybe open governance means some other good things but the mindset of people can be dangerously behind or the same as before as shitshow people (said in short but politely).

EXAMPLE BELOW

Google links 🔗 :youtube: ( :google: ) we have here like an ad-farm basically, every other fucking link and trackable which Admins are not even interested to suggest another curve in bsaying something even though they believe in Mastodon type things (why we came here soon to to be all mixed).

So a proxy filter links like @invidious (also open source) should be used if people believe in similar things to :mastodon: and could at least be announced often to watch youtube links without ads, tracking, bad code-!

It's along the same lines of why we came here and (IF we want to keep going further it's the users). ✝️

Even using google video without tracking - this a major WIN (or just not a major LOSS)
*CLICK* *CLICK*
*CLICK* *CLICK*
*CLICK* *CLICK*
*CLICK* *CLICK*

I calculate 99999 per day - we got to aim for better usage here rather than honeypot each other... like most people with a 'simple' uneducated click :two_button_mouse: undo all the good work. That is down to us too if we see it as a pattern to invest in that (not just give people hammers and expect them to be responsible with posts like nails flying everywhere)

NEXT: of Mastodon

Mastodon and it's people have somewhat chosen to make it's home in America at least with it's finances and registering there - that is a BIG mistake - I understand EU was slow or even not recognizing Mastodon to allow donations (or whatever the story was) but if you become more Americanised you are endangering things FULL STOP. How strong America governs things is like advanced well-trained system of breading aggressors and is under-estimated as systems or even currency which gives currency to people but takes back more... so moving your finances there Mastodon to that side of the pond where they are invading every single fucking thing elsewhere (HOME and ABROAD) is near stupid AS IT IS POLITICAL WHO YOU 'DEAL' WITH. If you understand who has who by the balls and previous shutdowns of finances... You can see it at some point... were the people even asked (sorry I don't know).

So let this writing be not just a warning but seriously train your baby users and Mastodon future compromises as it's the same fast-fast build and then BANG "HALT" STOP.

"Don't go to America" in a millions senses even if they are the best (you know all the bad stuff and the good isn't worth it).

Open Source 🔥
Open Protocol 🔥
Open Governance <== (by who?) META / BlueSky? 🔥

I too want for more users BUT really the feeling are like...

"We want to talk to Threads PEOPLE but not Threads as a US company / META etc@

NOBODY accumulating data / monopoly based / invader type companies and massive predators...

It's not like they will stop there and satisfied and happy... they want the whole lot! The whole country!
I think people forget history or have closed eyes even today.
Give give, take take take take...

No undertones of racism just pure compliments to American producing such shitshows and technically they perfected the shitshow as brutal monopolisation and ruling by keeping people on the payroll or holding their livelihood random - they already dun did it almost in every way they could.

So saying open isn't necessarily good BUT priority (safety) and less swimming with sharks / accepting inevitable adverts / mining / the usual.

CONSIDER ADVERTS 💲 AS THE "INCOMING!!"

AND

"THEY'RE MINING US AND MY MESSAGES HERE !"

Not enough to say from Admins or Developers "We it's not up to me but the users" when it's somewhat their users which they could at least advise else they become part of it (and that is politics in a nut shell including not doing when you see it happening).

ℹ️ I did this text with speed so you can skim the main points which there is about 4/5 there.

All said positively (even the "watch out for this" parts)

5/ Putting more signs on door THIS XYZ IS NOT PERMITTED / NO CONSENT
My bio has some element of that copied from others...

is...

- Looking for love and play...

- Education and experience together.

What we're essentially all looking for is love or play, education and experience.

Seeking simple appreciation or acknowledgement of things and of each other - and not always the extremes needed at all.

Education and experience together. Healthy growing things (each other included).

Love means so many things for example, and can be shared for relative objects or art that create or hold joy for us and meaning.

@dlakelan @FantasticalEconomics As a tangent, can you see / have you heard of a much better way (even if there is a big weakness or 2, just something that does things much better?). Optional question and whatever better means for you is ok for the meaning.

"... it's "a political system in which the government is willing to exert violence to protect ownership claims to the receipt of rents" ".

- Daniel Lakeland @dlakelan

from post: mastodon.sdf.org/@dlakelan/113

(full text below just in case the post goes)

" I'm gonna make a much much less drastic claim. And that is, in a democratic society, a market for exchange with a medium of accounting will appear.

That's it. That's not capitalism. It took me nearly 50 years to understand and distinguish between the two because of all the propaganda. Capitalism isn't "selling things" it isn't "markets" it's "a political system in which the government is willing to exert violence to protect ownership claims to the receipt of rents" "

Can you say more about what you mean about "a market for exchange with a medium of accounting will appear." ? 

@dlakelan @FantasticalEconomics

Hi Daniel can you say more about what you mean about "a market for exchange with a medium of accounting will appear."

was in this post (or clicking this post should get there)
mastodon.sdf.org/@dlakelan/113

Full post below;
I'm gonna make a much much less drastic claim. And that is, in a democratic society, a market for exchange with a medium of accounting will appear.

That's it. That's not capitalism. It took me nearly 50 years to understand and distinguish between the two because of all the propaganda. Capitalism isn't "selling things" it isn't "markets" it's "a political system in which the government is willing to exert violence to protect ownership claims to the receipt of rents"

@FantasticalEconomics

I'm gonna make a much much less drastic claim. And that is, in a democratic society, a market for exchange with a medium of accounting will appear.

That's it. That's not capitalism. It took me nearly 50 years to understand and distinguish between the two because of all the propaganda. Capitalism isn't "selling things" it isn't "markets" it's "a political system in which the government is willing to exert violence to protect ownership claims to the receipt of rents"

@elysegrasso Hi, saw the favourite for qoto.org/@freeschool/113188845 and thought I'd have a look at your profile.

Something rings a bell and even look familiar but I'm sure it's not something close, but interesting nonetheless to see more even for that reason (everything seems connected or connectible sometimes right!)

So just started reading through posts - fires can be tough - I've personally jumped into an inferno while looking from outside and deciding if I should... and went in looking for my bag.

Hope you can recover / rebuild almost better from what you want and even appreciate less load from the material loaded over the years naturally as humans.
I have some things I know have but forever won't do much with ('m just starting this process pretending my stuff will go or that I will not make it - just so I "hurry up a bit" with that in mind and figure out why I keep these things... but also have much less now and made things digital

1/ Still wondering what to do as it's people and interaction that seems the main (as solution and enjoyment) so any tips or realisation welcome from things gone and hope it's not too late to learn something from it

2/ I'd like to also offer any help to balance that like if you need old or new things re-editing / sorting / donkey work / laborious stuff etc consider me a the time / hands you can use.

What else... Well I'll see as I scroll.
Appreciations for your life and experiences...

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