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@veer66 I wrote that predicate; it isn't in core. It works by ducktyping in a try-catch: attempt to (deref) the thing or catch error and false. I hate relying on try-catch like that, and ducktyping is not robust.

Anyone know a better way than ducktyping for a CLJC way of writing a predicate `atom?` They are different types in CLJS (cljs.core/Atom) vs CLJ (clojure.lang.atom).

Whoa. Mastodon (qoto) has circles now? I loved Google Plus, and know those are now in Twitter, too. Are they basically persistent chatrooms? #noxp

@winenous Oh, it's been around since before "software engineering" became a thing. But logging is not something taught in beginner courses or undergrad CS courses. It is far from "hello world". It is like an extra-curricular topic.

@borkdude Hey! You're on Mastodon now! Welcome! Also, hooray for Cherry. How is it with the main tooling (hotloading, reagent, etc)?

I'm conflicted over whether PHP being "very much alive" is a bad thing :) Unlike Clojure, it is inarguably badly designed. But by sheer inertia it has has exceeded its design and actually works well

In #clojure, select-keys against a set instead of a vector must be better or worse. Does using a set actually help? `(select-keys {:foo 1} #{:foo})`

#clojure Logic: "if it's not an atom, make it one." Note that `atom?` is not in core.

I'm not ashamed but can anyone think of more elegant way to do this?

@derickflorian Yeah, I have a few of those, too. It's nice when someone has done some of the heavy lifting for you.

In that first decade of learning to code, "logging" was not a concept. Something so painfully useful that seems so simple until you dig in... #logging

@davoloid Welcome!