🎓 Doc Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@qoto.org

If you are ever in egypt i highly recommend you try the pickled lemons, they are quite nice. Im also a fan of their two most popular cheeses: roumy and domiati. #egypt #food

@waltercool

@stux I cant tell if you are:

1) Telling the store to run quickly
2) Making a run to a place called the Quick Store
3) Making a quick run to a generic store

@xarvos

What can I say, its not my fault I have a thing for people with advanced dementia :)

@swiley

@swiley concise, to the point, and correct :) lol

@Zerglingman

I doubt most people can effectively use a mask for 2 days let alone 2 weeks

@blueplanetslittlehelper @Pat @trinsec @zleap

@Pat

Using resperators in a noninfectious setting or even just professional settings in general, isnt really comparable. You have entire facilities and teams setup to support that process. If you need a sip of water you have clean rooms and decontamination arches you can pass through etc.

You simply cant replicate the rigor of a hazmat environment in the general public on a day to day basis for hours on end.

@blueplanetslittlehelper @zleap @trinsec

@Pat

I disagree, even with full training I dont think people will use masks effectively. The human nature to fidget, take sips of water, etc will override any train. For masks to be effective the discipline for most people is simply to great. Even surgeons have entire teams of people helping them to make it managable.

@blueplanetslittlehelper @zleap @trinsec

@Pat
I addressed why a virus that under normal conditions is primarily airborn might still be an issue in the case of a mask. Largely because its half life on surfaces in the wild doesnt apply when talk about damp/humid environments like a face mask where it would easily survive (unlike natural surfaces)
@blueplanetslittlehelper @zleap @trinsec

@Pat
Lolol i usually see people walking with a mask down by their chin thinking its doing something there somehow lol
@bonifartius @blueplanetslittlehelper @zleap

@Pat
I think there is no denying that under ideal conditions a respirator will effectively filter viruses. I myself dont dispute that part. I just feel that benefit is completely negates and even increases transmission when people actually use them in the wild due to the level of rigor it takes doe them to be effective.

Anyone who sips a drink effectively is turning something that reduces transmission into something that increases it.
@blueplanetslittlehelper @zleap @trinsec

@bonifartius
I never claimed masks cant work or that it isnt people being dumb. My claim is that when people wear masks they increase the transmission of the virus. This relies on the fact that 99.9% of them will be "dumb" even if they know better.

A doctor even, whom knows thry should t take it off to take even a sip of water outside of a clean room, likely will take it off to sip their water, and will almost certainly touch the mask inappropriately when they do simply because their guard is down.

Its about human nature and how people will inevitably behave by having a mask on

@blueplanetslittlehelper @Pat @zleap

@blueplanetslittlehelper

Yes that too.. .From what I can tell the way almost everyone behaves with a mask on seems to significantly increase risks. Since I dont think its possible to train them otherwise (even surgeons need a team to engage in proper mask use) I think the effect of masks is likely harmful overall in any practical sense.

@bonifartius @Pat @zleap

@timorl yes thats fair, the droplet route alone wouldnt cut it. If the droplet route were the only route and transfer of the disease from excess touching of the face and mask werent a factor at all then I'd expect masks to be somewhat effective.

@Pat

In fact the only reason a surgeon can use a mask effectively at all is thanks to a team of people there ready to scratch their nose for them and give them water without the need to touch their own mask.

@blueplanetslittlehelper @zleap @trinsec