🎓 Doc Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@qoto.org

@freemo @srwennekes @sillystring The kind of intelligence that you are speaking of is highly subjective. I think that is where our disagreement is.

On an entirely unrelated subject, since I haven't been on here long, I have to say this debate we have had has been much more civil than any I've had (or tried to have) on Twitter or Facebook.

@timorl

Then you werent watching the live feed. the reporters themselves on the live feed, up until the first unarmed protesters was murdered, said "They appear peaceful".. pretty much literally all except for about 5 were and the ones that were not had not assaulted or injured any individuals but had broken windows and were trying to get into the chamber. but yes they were very few indeed.

Now **after** the unarmed protester was murdered by the cop more than 5 people began to act violently for sure. But that was a response from the crowd, and thankfully still somewhat isolated at that point.

> Have you watched the video I linked earlier? The other video where people chase the policeman through the corridors?

Yes I saw the video long before you linked it. It had a police officer running from an unarmed group of people who were chasing him as he repeatedly stopped, tried to beat them with their baton, and then ran again.

As a general rule when you try to beat a unarmed crowd that out numbers you with a stick you will likely get chased. Now while no one in that video at any point assaulted the police officer that we could see one might expect the outcome of that could have potentially been a few punches in good measure for the beating the officer was giving them. However we do not see that actually happen in the video so hard to say if that was the outcome.

> So forcing a car off a road is not violence? It’s a safe thing you do only symbolically?

The car wasnt forced off the road. In the scene you describe the car tried to force the trump supporter off the road by trying to dangerously force merge in between the truck and the bus ahead when there was not enough space between them. The truck then **responded** to this by veering to the left. while the Truck driver was acting inappropriately in engaging in surrounding the bus in the first place that does not justify the other driver trying to drive **him** off the road and potentially kill him. The truck drivers response is likely the only thing that saved his life by veering to the left to ensure he had the momentum.

> but we all warned you this would happen

Sorry but when your burning down buildings, installing dictatorships (literally) across multiple city blocks, burning down cars, and beating people bloody in the streets cries of "oh he might maybe incite some fascism" is going to fall on deaf ears... and a unarmed "coup attempt" by all of 5 people, one of whom get shot dead is hardly a counter argument that you were right.

> Yeah, I remember the multi-day protests after he won an election, because people were worried this would end badly,

A bunch of violence because people were worried it would end bady, 4 years of building fires and violence all because you were worried it would end badly, and it ended with half a dozen nut jobs trying to walk into the chamber unarmed , which was responded to by killing one of them. good thing you did all that violence to warn us of that oh so horrible threat... maybe next time do it without burning down buildings and you **might** come out smelling like roses, but not this time.

@2ck @antigravman

So, this is where it is all happening now - Show me what you got! 😋

I am trying to work out, given the current employer insistence that people have certificates / evidence for skills etc if we should as a community come up with our own for using mastodon / fediverse and other free software tools.

I found a LaTeX template so am experimenting a little here.

No idea how we could award this, but could be some sort of internal thing, to those who have been here and interacted for say 6th months +

Just a thought.

Hello

@sillystring@infosec.exchange

> I mean look at the turn over. As a business person he is terrible.

I never said he was a good businessman or even a good president. He was horrible at both, Biden just happens to be far worse.

With that said he had a signficantly better impact on both the stock exchange and the unemployment rate than Biden's run as Vice President, right up until the coronavirus. But it would be foolish to compare a complete economic shutdown under Trump to any other period in time, the fallout from that is inevitable. Even so aside from doing much better than Biden pre-coronavirus his unemployment rate recovery after the bulk of the epidemic was at a higher rate than we have ever seen from any other economic crash in history.

Trump literally hit two records as president that havent been matched in the lifetime of anyone living: 1) he managed to get the unemployment rate to the lowest it has been in living history 2) he managed to see the fastest recovery of unemployment following an economic crash of any incident in history.

While I wouldnt say these two facts make him a good president, credit where credit is due, and there isnt much Biden has ever accomplished worthy of any praise, and a **lot** he has done horrifically wrong.

> Biden is superior by merely not instigating mayhem.

I wouldnt say that describes him or the democrats any more or less than Trump.

We certainly had some isolated cases of violence at teh capital, and that isn't acceptable, but trump was one of the very first people to get on the TV and tell them that violence was unacceptable.

Meanwhile I spent the bulk of the year watching democrat protests burn down buildings and cop cars in my city tot he point that the sky was black with smoke. I didnt see biden decrying those incidents or calling out the violence at all.

@SmilingTexan

So, will anyone be watching the United States presidential inauguration?

@lucifargundam @freemo If you teach the sky a lesson by blowing it up each year (July 4 in this case) probably not a civil war.
The USA has been at war with someone or something for about 200 cumulative years. We are bound to punch ourselves in the face a few times! Officially only 1 though.

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1). Get pre pardoned
2.) Crime it up!
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