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What lasts "forever" as man-made without expiry is often cheating / misrepresenting the reality of erosion / degradation on earth 

What lasts "forever" as man-made without expiry is often cheating / misrepresenting the reality of erosion / degradation on earth and making it look like 'gravity' doesn't exist' when numbers stay forever or money for example... though they are being eroded I guess with inflation... but that's just cheating people as inflation / tax over time doesn't need to be, so I mean more nature / natural thing than man layers added on top I guess as real Earth value, not man-made false value!)

over time

@meet_judith I think this is a healthy idea and one I add to people's 'notes' (on their profile page) so could be nice to send it to them (or not) but often I write if I've tried to contact them or replied many times... but for you I like the idea of crypto based on cookie coins / food, though all is based on fiat money :[ it's at least something on the right lines of keeping people alive with food or something that lasts (but perhaps doesn't last forever as both good and bad, because what lasts forever is cheating earth / misrepresenting reality of erosion like making it look like gravity doesn't exist and number stay forever ...though are being eroded I guess with inflation.. so more nature than man made I guess!)

"If You Give a Mouse a Cookie...." can be a "slippery slope" in giving / people having more energy... although it's more humane and would be better I think to give... 

That’s why If You Give a Mouse a Cookie.... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_You_G... is a book illustrating a "slippery slope" when you give, perhaps as charity as an example context, but more is wanted / demanded. [which I think logic can take care of itself a bit here).

That's why "The mouse never gets a cookie..." is a kind of government analogy to say "Don't give, they will only want more... [freedom, money, control etc]"

Described as a "circular tale", the increasing energy of the mouse means the little boy gets run ragged by the end of the story from constantly serving the mouse....

(Though in reality I don't think this is true, people can self-govern or go along with things, with oversight similar to what they do now but will more given back to "The People").

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"Legal" is just another type of Business... "Illegal" = Just keeping the Business going using "Ilegal" as excuses for not solving things completely (Governments need to not solve things to keep their own jobs and control going). Governments can't solve things else reduce their powers and excuses! 

Imagine "legal" governments need to let illegal things to exist as a controlled way to keep their own jobs.

"Legal" is seldom about morals only or over-arching goals of good as priority (otherwise we could have paid for it already)... "Legal" - It's just another business

= Just
= Just keeping Business going

Some people are ultimately ok with harm to others... ( 🙈 + 🙉 + 🙊 = choosing not to do anything with what they see, hear, speak about evil)... 

...as long as they don't see it
... as long as it's not direct in their own face, it's not for them to do anything.

Some people are ultimately ok with harm to others... ( 🙈 + 🙉 + 🙊 = choosing not to do anything with what they see, hear, speak about evil)

It's like "I didn't do anything, I pay what these gangsters told me to and they did the work, NOT ME..."

Or they say "who are we talking about" as if it's 1 person or just 1 group of people (the question shows depth in seeing systematic people rolling in and out to do the same damage, none of which we know the names or or can see from such far distances and lack of transparency... and the economic cloak and cover for draining people's blood is also not direct in their face so it's like "yeah I see lots of stuff on the news but I really can't see how that's to do with me, my company, money, my government, at all" even though yeah they complain but ultimately they complain informally to others but never rock the boat officially... cowardice ultimately and covering of eyes / mind... 🙈 + 🙉 + 🙊

Choosing not to see, hear, speak is quite hard for others to live with...

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Open Eyes, Ears, Mouth with the right people...

Audio is tiny, self-manageable, fast

...to edit / upload / download / stream etc

Video is increasingly not, and in many more ways...

Our existences are a kind of ownership AND we share the need for that *at the same time*... and this might need some level of "property" involved. 

@barefootstache Good stuff, thanks.

One thing, which is a bit of a paradox (that is kind of life sometimes itself) so let me ask you this:

Does a baby born in the world deserve water and basics in needs as a kind of possession or property to some level (not as extreme or as high as complicated certificates or systems) but just that you share / own the world and therefore only right to provide for such new people and in a similar "right" that you don't want to take it away from anyone ( which is what systems seems to do as a + on one side while - or taking away from people on the other) and seeing this paragraph as basically giving consideration forward / "paying it forward" somewhat.

The crux and paradox is that

Our existences are a kind of ownership AND we share the need for that *at the same time*... and this might need some level of "property" involved.

So wanted to see what you think about that as you said or the book said (or both) that property is not a right.

Life has been made all about control / ownership etc...

(...from controlling and owning citizens right the way down the hierarchy or pyramid ⬅️ OFTEN BOTH)

BY THE /

Question: How to keep multi-cultural things going without looking at the bad all the time?) 

We need something of a way that allows problems to be overlooked but people aren't going to cheat us (and people who are not doing to overlook those that cheat us unless really "for the greater good").

Somehow to feel we are united...
even though everyone is different :blobrofl:

❓ (And bit of a paradox perhaps)
But any ideas on how to keep multi-cultural things going without looking at the bad all the time and what works towards being united in some sense?)

#Chess #Question - Why can't one king kill another king? 

@ubuntuxp@emacs.ch Ah yes, I did kind of forget that now and also remember before I did think of that (so fair point)

... BUT still I think that rule or part of the game could be also asked "why?" as a subset of the first about Kings killing all else...

Does anyone know the original story (probably not) and is it just another thing accepted since it can work whichever way a mass of people play it?

#Chess #Question - Why can't one king kill another king? 

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Why can't a king kill another king?

Considering that Kings KILL ALL OTHER PIECES... but not the other king?

Reminds me of arbitrary "game of life" where "arbitrary" means "because someone said so" (which is fair enough for games, but sometimes not logical or has it's reasons beyond the average person / player... indeed in games and in life!"

Deep I know...

the sky IS falling (our environment/community is falling apart) - things *are* being blown up 

@olives So with this post (having liked all your and not saying this is bad) I just want to clarify that the sky falling as could be be seen as 'banking falling/failing' or environment/community is falling apart everywhere) - things *are* being blown up... somewhere... even if it's digging earth and putting concrete over it for another road or sterilisation of district / area.

So I admit I'm not sure of original context but just in the whole context / statement of "we can't see or feel what's happening' I feel as reply "it is measurably falling or blowing up even just in our own lives" (lots of metaphors or similes I can imagine but yeah debt increase or price increase, cut-backs, scandals, Wiki-leaks type stuff, constant wars that are not imaginary, people can't pay heating in UK and even rich countries are in XYZ trouble as a sure sign of well "not-so-good" time and things just 'happening' to them etc etc ) so while I don't want to load that all on your shoulders or overload, I do think it's more of the same and even bigger as people learn how to do bad shit (incentivised by uncaring system) in more shittier ways as business methods filter down or get sold on to the everyday person more and more. Like buying from supermarkets and thinking there is not damage or cut-throat stuff control happening with farmers or supply chain domination effects.

Aaanyway so as with my parents and girlfriend in the past (again not to project on anyone) it's just frequent people have said:

"who is doing it, can you tell me?" and "how?"

and it's obviously not 1 person and it's very naive for anyone in asking that way as it shows lack of maturity in knowing how deep business and government works or how mature they have becomes so as never to kill you directly nowadays / not any more but slit your throat slowly / leak money from you (or someone else's) so you don't even feel it, people are practically paying for these wars!!

Like bleeding the patient but not killing them dry, keep them alive and milking them... people are taxed sources from 100 different ways (people don't even see or care to look at their receipts) which is all about economy and money as it's middle-man and specifically vehicle for rolling the anonymous people in the background and changing people we never know or see (some don't even know their bosses 2 level up even in their own company) so those who can't work out that much can't see how much people are raking in mad profits while they moan about cutting back small near-insignificant stuff... rather than government or bosses taking from their own fat pockets for example. Of course they they are not stealing from us lol

So in a friendly reply:

" Tell me ALL this stuff ISN'T happening or you don't see it !!!! "

and I'll consider it say clearly even though I noted your tag but can consider this as a tool for just roping in more of what was already happening and existing all along as Government profit, control as a as anyone might be able to see from any system of uncaring types... or maybe not right?!

is just another tool allowed for a reason which surely isn't for helping totally - more like keep people down mostly... if not now evidently then later in some scandal or 100...

So feel free to clarify your standing on that and also tell me you think it won't be used on people and are mostly not used against people by companies etc etc. :blobrofl:

"...single genius can often spot the problem, and articulate it, in a way the crowd can’t. That ability does not make us qualified to design the solution. At least, not much moreso than anyone else who has to live in it."

- Poloniousmonk @Uair
poloniousmonk.substack.com/p/a

In other words:
can identify
= also as the

Incentives drive behaviour - that's why it's hard to trust anyone...

and hard to by-pass tat once installed (even if both parties wanted to for mutual reasons, so we must align back the crookedness continually and more clearly)

@ninly If you can involve others with almost "bring whatever you got" status then let me know...

(or just me to start and then we start doubling people and stuff brought in)
Small audio posts can go a long way here (and avoid twitch).

I used to put small things on this server or follower-only posts for those that already join knowing so it's not federated/copied to everyone but those who ask for it / joined (yeah I thought and test a bit!)...

it's about relativity in the end

SOLO DOESN'T WORK in many ways... would love to discuss

Gas Boilers are not efficient / cost-effective (big holes in your pocket for labour + parts + specialism for both overall as an overall factor)... 

@Workshopshed Yep totally gave my disclaimer knowing it was a side-topic / off-topic... but yeah let me know what you end up with later!

@Uair Ok good to know what's what and even sort out by saying "not that" as the sorting in of itself...

If you have any skills please list, I feel like it's going to need non-normal people to fix the world - so really list all you like to do or DM and I'll architect a bit more of an idea with that... my server is mostly one way output so happy to a least hear back and even have limitations. Normal people perhaps have too much choice and therefore stagnation... so don't want to knock everyone my side but bless them at the same time and my own 'demands' to do more...!

suicide joke 

@actuallyautistic

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Hey. Feeling hopeless again and coping with humor as usual. I think we should establish a suicide promotion hotline. Hear me out.

Personally, I knew I should have done it at age ten. I just thought I was too young to make that decision. I needed some support and encouragement like our hotline could provide.

suicide joke - Desperation + Sulfur dioxide ((definition for the original post) 

@Uair @Shufei@mastodon.sdf.org @actuallyautistic en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail_M
= A very long forward pass in American football, typically made in desperation, with an exceptionally small chance of achieving a completion. Due to the difficulty of a completion with this pass, it makes reference to the Catholic "Hail Mary" prayer for strength and help.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfur_d
Chemical compound with the formula SO2 (small 2 next to O).

Sulfur dioxide is the product of the burning of sulfur or of burning materials that contain sulfur.

It is a toxic gas responsible for the odor of burnt matches.

The roasting of sulfide ores such as pyrite, sphalerite, and cinnabar (mercury sulfide) also releases SO2 (small 2 next to O).

As a fumigant
In the beginning of the 20th century, sulfur dioxide was used in Buenos Aires as a fumigant to kill rats that carried the Yersinia pestis bacterium, which causes bubonic plague.

Ingestion
Symptoms of sensitivity to sulfiting agents, including sulfur dioxide, manifest as potentially life-threatening trouble breathing within minutes of ingestion.[43] Sulphites may also cause symptoms in non-asthmatic individuals, namely dermatitis, urticaria, flushing, hypotension, abdominal pain and diarrhea, and even life-threatening anaphylaxis.[44]

Inhalation
Incidental exposure to sulfur dioxide is routine, e.g. the smoke from matches, coal, and sulfur-containing fuels like bunker fuel. Relative to other chemicals, it is only mildly toxic and requires high concentrations to be actively hazardous.[45] However, its ubiquity makes it a major air pollutant with significant impacts on human health.

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