HUMAN CHANGE = WORK TOGETHER ? @freeschool@qoto.org

"Money" is a tool for extraction - like a Bank is a shop on the high street offering you to buy / pay for money (and then spend it thinking you have more)/

Extraction is what David Graeber should of had in his names of his #books ! 📖 He did have "Value" but "Devalue" of negative words in titles would have been better - "Money as Debt" is a good example by

Extraction from people and DEvalues everything from everyone according to how many loans are being taken out (the day you enter using money has even more loans taken and that is almost like fake money thus diluting existing money so you need to keep trying to get more while it devalues!).

#DavidGraeber #Money #Answer

Talking about it is good as if you're willing to solve it. DM's welcome.

ABOUT GRAEBER
Graeber married artist Nika Dubrovsky in 2019.[84] The two collaborated on a series of books, workshops, and conversations called Anthropology for Kids[85] and on the Museum of Care, a shared space for communication and social interactions nourishing values of solidarity, care, and reciprocity. According to Graeber's website, "The main goal of the Museum of Care is to produce and maintain social relationships."[86] The concept "museum of care" was coined by Graeber and Dubrovsky in their article "The Museum of Care: imagining the world after the pandemic", originally published in "Arts of the Working Class" in April 2020.[87] In the article, Graeber and Dubrovsky imagine a post-pandemic future, where vast surfaces of office spaces and conservative institutions are turned into "free city universities, social centers and hotels for those in need of shelter". "We could call them 'Museums of Care' – precisely because they are spaces that do not celebrate production of any sort but rather provide the space and means for the creation of social relationships and the imagining of entirely new forms of social relations.

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DEATH FROM CO-VID ?
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"Graeber died suddenly from necrotic pancreatitis[89] on September 2, 2020, while on vacation with his wife and friends in Venice.[90] Graeber died during the COVID-19 pandemic and instead of a funeral, his family organized an "Intergalactic Memorial Carnival" of livestreamed events that took place in October 2020.[91] His wife, Nika, attributed the pancreatitis to COVID-19, pointing to his prior good health, strange symptoms they both had for months beforehand, and the connection scientists have found between COVID-19 and pancreatitis.

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#BOOK / PUBLICATIONS
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Toward an Anthropological Theory of Value: The False Coin of Our Own Dreams.

Fragments of an Anarchist Anthropology.

Lost People: Magic and the Legacy of Slavery in Madagascar.

Direct Action: An Ethnography.

Debt: The First 5000 Years.

The Democracy Project: A History, a Crisis, a Movement. New York: Spiegel & Grau. 2013.

The Utopia of Rules: On Technology, Stupidity, and the Secret Joys of Bureaucracy.

Bullshit Jobs: A Theory.

The Dawn of Everything: A New History of Humanity.

Pirate Enlightenment, or the Real Libertalia.

@L29Ah @cweickhmann @trinsec @freemo I might call it 'non-event" instead of upgrade event but that doesn't represent fairly what has been tried so far... which without bugging for basically has kinda get left unsaid... which I find a bit unprofessional as work regardless of "you didn't pay for it" comment or when people say but don't do (and then don't say that they can't do it and instead wait for another bugging message)... 🙌 but this is not to pester just saying free people that don't turn up are also annoying / costing in some way and better not mention "in a few days" AT ALL.

And I say non-event too as a fun way to manage expectations (again) and suggest freemo's estimates are often wrong on this upgrade happening thing (you have to chase if you value something) - btw freemo AGAIN you said you would enable search for own posts in a few days - CAN YOU MAKE IT HAPPEN KAPITAN or just tell me it's not possible! And don't complain as I'm not complaining any more than asking again!)

FOR THOSE NEW - THE BASIC STORY...

For those new, the upgrade was supposed to be by weekend earlier this year. the weekend, then after... and now 6months on now - though I haven't looked at exact date to waste that much of my time on it (and because you can't search your own posts here).

Right now biggest thing not working is listed below and what I've alerted whoever is maybe on this:

- no searching of own posts
- no upload of many file types or size limits (I was doing a podcast but anyway was a bit dead here)
- few misfires / error (of which retry solves it) or posts that freeze the TOOT button for about 30s and then after retry works!
- some other errors / timeouts

- maybe people forgetting about this all during their lunch breaks (lol) is also part of it :D

So limits of sorts but not so bad... the time itself is getting worse when trying I find a post or the many lists of super-tips I make and now can't find so easily- I find this out after forgetting and seeing the message "search is not enabled on this server".

I'll add to that what you said also:

- Not able to see some accounts natively in Mastodon (accounts that exist elsewhere). This could be other reason - probably not though, and you probably tried loading the static page instead like https://mastodon.social/@Mattahan/ instead of being logged in viewing it? If it loads as static external page then it's problem on our side)

Anyway I'll add the above to the quick list as I realise I had that too for a user and pondered why...

GENERAL WARNING ABOUT ADDING CONTENT ON #QOTO OR MOST MASTODON SERVERS: 📋
➡️ You can't export data into something human readable format on Mastodon - so it's no worries if your posts are all disposable.... but if like me it's curating, re-edited, preparing to write a book of sorts then it's not helpful at the end and not like Twitter (Twitter gives offline version of same interface you would see online of posts)

You might know it on Mastodon having moved but you get a JSON file and images - that's it almost as export backup with Mastodon 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 ). Expecting you to be a JSON master.

Even still I haven't met anyone able to make their online in to offline as viewable / navigatable format (with pictures to posts!)

So if you moved already you literally left your curation behind I guess and left a link of the soon-to-be-relic and separate search you'd need to do logged in there - unless the server dies and you can't even search that anymore!...

OK FREEMO - YET ANOTHER IDEA... V3.2.1 but fully functioning ? @freemo

I wouldn't even mind V3.2.1 fully functioning and nothing else. Is that possible?
Can't we go back to more fully version of 3.2.1 and you can consider it "done for now" until after Christmas to full upgrade as a gift to us (basically in your own time and those staff supposedly on it) much later ? 🌲 🌨️ 🎄 🏂 <--- yea I call it - this will be done around Christmas and I can even refer back to this message as snow is about 3months away from now!

⌨️ 🌲 🌨️ 🎄 🏂 ⌨️

#media as a #distraction to doing something it

"The media/government are doing a lot to keep you guys outraged and demoralized."

- hazlin @hazlin
#Quote from https://shortstacksran.ch/objects/ac6de337-fe1b-4f6d-ba43-2a46c0b45477

#subcontracting as #risk #management

"It was indeed safer for a subcontracted project to fail, than to risk doing it in house... and least for the person's career."

- hazlin @hazlin
#Quote From post: https://shortstacksran.ch/objects/d622da92-2323-454a-95c3-f7837b67c9bd

To Marry or Not to Marry?

"God made you for more than just marriage. And, whether or not you marry, it is a small thing compared to what God has in mind for your life."

- @hazlin
Quoted from post: https://shortstacksran.ch/objects/1be347b2-2bd3-4d09-8156-cef18e6b27b4

#religion #god #marry or more #purpose in #life ?

@TheOldGuy
Some notes on what author said:

- Yes you're probably right they won't stand down.

- But it is kind of ironic the "they" could just as well be USA as much as it is Russia - I mean which one would you trust more?

it's almost NO DIFFERENCE or I'm saying that to find out what people can differential as positive between them because of the next point also:

- USA doesn't give a fuck about most places so the question is why would it care about Ukraine ? (from a massive shit-for-brains leadership to pebble in Europe - why even help?)

-And then continuing from that above... why would they *not* subject Ukraine to it's own shit-show subset of strategies and leveraging systems... like giving just enough to die out but just about win and then come in themselves in some way as expansion... I would not underestimate it - then it would be a rag-tag EU vs deadly USA,

In other words it's almost no help sometimes to allow the same shit-show artists to come "save the day" if they will fuck what is left that they say is saved or subject it to various pay-back schemes and conditions.

YES I'M ALL FOR FREEDOM BUT LOOK WHO USA IS BEFORE COMPLAINING ABOUT RUSSIA !

Yes look to Europe to complain - the 'hiring' of USA services or mercenaries or accepting 'gifts' is simply not a workable plan either frankly (I accept if EU doesn't care then it's the only option I'd consider taking a bullet for).

- So mostly (and I accept there is some weaving I've done here pointing to the same shit-show people) I think USA is just running both peoples into the ground and making it come to a crawling win or later will go all-in to really make sure both Ukraine and Russia have no legs to run away from their bargaining plans ...

USA is as good in as many things that Russia is - so it's like jumping from this fire into another fire. :f :nes_fire: 🏃‍♀️ 🔥

All comes down to money -
Some of what the author wrote I think sounded like people or USA doing the right thing... NO WAY- USA?
Sometimes those types want "the worse to happen, the worse the better as it's clearer" and for the taking.

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SUMMARY:
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One thing seems historically true, USA (and all super-powers) seem totally interchangeable as names and as not caring (like near-0 or worse using the situation for more #wars) - just land, territory, extraction of resources, total domination, 1-track mind etc...

While I'm not in the camp of Ukraine going down, I thnk the making, spending, detonating of things is also big waste of time, energy... etc

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SIDE NOTE / REAL UNITY ?
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Real unity or real understanding would be great as it's own thing to gain respect - respect of logic not just authority - something that stands sovereign itself as much as person has their own power (not shenanigans of grouping or politics covering everything meaning somehow we sort everything and everyone as money themselves.

The scamming is money itself as a #war system on people - somehow adopted by every state even though different - strange that like high streets installed and all looking the same - and knowing what it does to cultures ... Ukrane included.

The misuse of the massive cream from money "they" take.... means I prefer everyone living is being "paid for" already to be essentially for real decision -making with less man-made threats than the usual force (which would be much less without money backing everything while raping it).

What I mean is not owing life to anyone as new borns and expecting people will get busy doing more real work (I consider financial world arbitrary and virtual too back out of people's hands)/

The "Service" we get is like getting raped as cash cows anyway so just getting ride of this means less people being cheated and getting even water etc more for free to continue with much less ultimatums / rent etc and of shitty jobs wastefully paying for it all,.. really get people to make life better...

(not always killing to restart a 'peaceful' period of working against inflation, company crooks and bankers).

Ok enough on those points...
Slava .... somehow less than just war....

Money more than God?
What's you main economy / way of life / belief ?

💰( even for cheese 🧀 etc) overrides belief ✝️
For most religious people they give in too easily or stops searchng... (various reasons also laziness of religion or general laziness / exhaustion which is legitimate in various degrees).

The priority of #money means people settle for $elling body of Christ / God - lot of ✝️ time for 💰 ( = 🧀 etc ) while things get worse / value of money goes down or prices go up...

Not risking the better way (by #God) or generally heading towards less #evil things... is the actual problem - no matter how good or bad Capitalism, it's God and those practices at the end - not trapping us people more or less.

Consider now is better for making ways than 5 years from now without more priority on God.

What do you think?

#Christianity = #Capitalist #Christians ?

Curve Fever is a multi-player #Snake type of game you could play online without logging in (but more logged in since it got popular) but even better there are offline versions too I realised just now!

Originally came out in 1993 (cloned from Czech game Červi or "Worms") and in 1995 on #Amiga and #MSDOS / #DOS !

#Retro or what? In 1993 was called Achtung, die Kurve!
https://achtungkurve.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achtung,_die_Kurve!

OFFLINE?
⬇️ You can now play offline on PC + multi-player on 1 keyboard computer!... thanks to #Zatacka ⬇️

https://linux.softpedia.com/get/GAMES-ENTERTAINMENT/Arcade/Zatacka-8698.shtml

for a potentially hilarious exciting party game! (think 5 snakes trying to avoid each other on 1 screen) but maybe need a decent keyboard that doesn't beep with all the keys pressed at once! ⌨️ !

ℹ️ So just a few more bits of info + links about below... ℹ️

Since it became a logged-in only game I left this game maybe 10 years ago but later I found this originally was made by:

Developer(s) Filip Oščádal
Kamil Doležal
Platform(s) Amiga, MS-DOS
Release 1993, 1995
Genre(s) Snake
Mode(s) Multiplayer

⬇️ Modern forms of online Curve Fever are:

1.1 https://curvetest.fun/
1.2 https://curvewars.com/
1.3 https://curvefever.pro/
1.4 https://curvecrash.com/

📋 List of #CurveFever history and changes here:

https://bladene.fandom.com/wiki/Curve_

#Fedi #Relationships of #Truth
#Community of #Friendships

"Even here on fedi, I have found people have a very low tolerance for confronting foundational lies, and replacing them with truth.
There is a sort of in-between step. Where, you have to spend some time in uncertainty. And, few seems to be able to cross that gap."

"A relationship based on the pursuit of truth, is a fragile thing,"

"Relationships have to be built on something else, on shared joys."

- @hazlin
Post here: https://shortstacksran.ch/objects/db755afa-97be-45bf-8c37-6e3cc46f4e56

@hazlin Well said - just confirms I've found treasure here...

Usually it's the 'let's do it for the others that helps them get together with a few people to lead - but I'd be happy to assume it wouldn't be possible and nobody would show up - so it would be just us and work from that... something much more controllable and quality too.

Wonderfully you captured what it is about truth "It does not create friendships." so I suggest we knowingly proceed to any business we can do (stuff we can be busy-with and increment) to explore something together like talking on the regular once a week... ?

Treasure both needs finding and occasionally polishing when it comes to us as a person. (so both is the reply to your training me to be treasure and courage all round is needed to polish what is essentially ourselves as "another" part of God or Cosmos, almost like fragments we are putting back together)

@hazlin I think it's hard for their level of experience, testing- the same as ours- where we might find it individually hard to team up with anyone and stick to it. Fediverse is better on the virtual social side but really crack nuts (breaking each other too somewhat and helping ourselves rebuild) is not an additional stress many want to take on or add to life.

I focus this paragraph on me you and say gabe + Fediverse as we're able and the inexperiences rest (or just those you can't be bold enough to communicate or find a way) will join in their own time (for now). And so that's my proposition that we crack nuts and you may choose from which.

If I were to ask first then I would ask "What is it you would like to see more of in the world" and my answer (as example) is more real talk together as a kind of training circle, lightly moderated by us 3 (taking turns and having our own meta chats about who joined and if it's serving them in the Jitsi chats well and basically creating somewhat "the good work" for us maybe once a week...

Something that you have wanted to solve or sort out - try name it or the words around.... Thanks

It's not just about knowledge.
It's about experience.

i.e. Was learning enjoyable?
i.e. Is knowledge worth it when it's crap to learn?
i.e. Does bad experience meanwhile make the knowledge temporary like temporary muscle-memory or short-term learning? (cramming for exams, fire and forget exhaustion-based "training", constant-stress 'learning')

@hazlin
So it's a yes to Christians not doing enough or perhaps even for the active it would be more fair to say:

"not going far enough"
"not going the distance / completing on know problems"
" Not working on it daily "

Capitalism is based around it's basic form:

private ownership of capital

BUT evolved (changed) into something else... now what this "something else" is can remain flexible but will including the meaning of Capitalism changing to mean today a people of a certain command and control mentality (hierarchy / government gate formation ( supervisor of the supervisors style formation )

So Capitalism is far from just trade (which us amazingly wrong) and more about centralising power, extraction. profiteering, weakening others, more politics (which we can say in shortest that "we should rule them otherwise we lose our power / job of abusing those that pay us - wantingly or not)

The main gist was "people follow Capitalism more than their own religion"

And if you talk about anti-religious things (according to their logic) they are still not looking to making better ways than things like:

- renting themselves, expecting children to sell themselves in future

- doing things they really don't like to "live" or dis-respectful / without God or Good-will in their work

- don't tell children how banks and money scams / devalues them and so become rather complicit themselves (the basis of all life is becoming debt or loans mathematically / incorrectly given out based on what banks do not have to give - they can give x2-x9 loans from only 1 amount of money which is like loans even though you don't have it - again immortal / financially incorrect)

- people respect or put money before Jesus (or whatever teachings from whatever religion)

- they never look to improve what is wrong end up following and only fuelling the wrong (even if it keeps them alive which sometimes should be not rated so highly since staying alive with the above is very wrong)
- etc

That's a bit more around the problems I mean... there are too many basically to be wrong to judge since it's measurable in answers and my own life's asking... every person I've known almost apart from "Hi, bye" relationships

oh yeah add to list:
- "Hi, bye" relationships that #Christians (or any modern ways listed in this post)
This is almost enforce by not giving + not MAKING time to listen and just closing doors to MY family (separate families and false sense of "mine" or "you stay over there where lines are drawn) when it should be more OUR family(s).