https://gitlab.com/ufoi/constitution/-/issues has what is currently being sorted out. Participation for constructive polish on the document is welcome.
I could use some about now for dinner. :)
Have you been following the "United Federation of Instances" thing going on? This would be the group for discussion of it. :)
@ufoi Timeline is empty, but I hope it will function correctly so I can see Stuff Going On.
@freemo https://a.gup.pe/u/ufoi shows a goldfish, likely a default page, likely could use a bit of dress-up.
@freemo I believe you intended "spammy" rather than "scammy", but yeah... I'll put a follow on @ufio and #UFoI tag "just in case." I'll also check out the Matrix Chat, but at this point I'll have to consider it a part of "yak shaving."
For those unaware of the idiom, "Yak shaving refers to a task, that leads you to perform another related task and so on, and so on — all distracting you from your original goal."
My ORIGINAL goal is "I'd like to micro-blog chat with people over the issues of the day and socialize, like the best of what Twitter could be, only without Twitter.
#UFoI seems to be an insurance policy on keeping Mastodon on that track, but as such is "a related task to the goal." Then Matrix is ... "a related task to a related task..."
https://youtu.be/AbSehcT19u0 is what this business feels like.
Since I'm trying to phase out tagging everyone individually, as it feels a bit scammy, but everyone asked to be kept in the loop... so here are some alternate "official" ways the conversation should continue:
1) On the official Gitlab repository, which is where all voting and formal discussions will take place
https://gitlab.com/ufoi/constitution
2) The group found here for mastodon discussions (just tag them instead of everyone): @ufoi
3) On matrix chat. #UFoI:matrix.org
And of sourse you are all welcome to contact me directly. I am very excited how there is so much talk about it and it hasnt even been released for 24 hours yet!
@timezoneless @floppy @ufoi @skanman @john @stevenclyman @robryk @ejg @dashrandom @Romaq @ichoran @AlanOutback @tsomof @aebrockwell @Ryle @tatzelbrumm @Gaythia @realcaseyrollins @stux@mstdn.social @stux@masto.ai @trinsec @khird @darnell #mastoadmin @jq
@barefootstache @EubieDrew @freemo @ufoi Matrix client, yay! New stuff to learn tangent to (but necessary for) ultimately having decent social micro-blogging!
Anyone familiar with "yak shaving?"
It's OK... I'm just a bit stretched with half of my heart in another country giving aid in a family emergency.
@alaina My wife is away to give her strength, support, and love as her adult daughter and our grandchildren are going through a rough patch. It's the first time we've been separated since she was hospitalized in 2008. You have my empathy. I follow your posts, and I wish you well.
@AtheistIntelligence Like the lottery: a socially approved tax upon the poor having them feel all the more privileged for paying into it.
@indi Thank you. It appears to promote all sorts of nonsense thinking in a child AND teaches the child you are either an idiot or a liar using dishonesty to keep them in check. Just... No. Please don't do that.
@freemo AND I deleted the local copy as it didn't show me anything of what has currently been changed, so I'm not clear it will do what I intended and I didn't want a "this doesn't work" project folder where I've begun putting Mastodon stuff.
I'll figure out what I need to know in due course.
Oooog.... I think we melted the git server. I was in the middle of posting but I'll wait until git recovers from its current trauma.
@Ryle And I've posted there, hopefully a useful approach. I have seen "Hate speech had a very clear legal definition", but then you have the problem of how one jurisdiction may currently define the term legally vs. another jurisdiction, if they define it at *all*. We could use the UN version, which may be totally disagreeable to people in countries who never signed off on that.
But... hopefully there is a solution that simply does without the specific term "hate speech."
@freemo I now have the git repository local. The Git GUI doesn't show me branches and changes, so I did it wrong. OF COURSE. But that's ok, my opportunity to learn, and being able to see changes would be more useful, I'd think. I'll post my message where the issue is already being discussed if there is anything it would contribute at that point.
@freemo Yeah, I just need to get moving to recover from work. Gawd this thing keeps moving and I want to follow what's going on while I'm doing what I really ought to be doing instead.
@Ryle Thank you. I missed seeing this before I posted a suggestion about it, but I was intent I not lose the thought I had at that moment. My current situation has me hella distracted to where I'm setting alarms for myself so I don't miss going to the loo when I need to.
I'll jump in there once I've shed my work funk off.
@freemo At the moment I'm flailing, but I'm not yet in a position to edit and I want to get this thing out of my head: "... communicating disrespect targeting a person's identity rather than their character. This behavior would often be characterized as (but not limited to) racism, sexism... (extend definitive list, avoid "hate speech" as a phrase.. and again "including but not limited to" is a wonderful phrase to use.)
TRUST ME, when I interact with flat earthers, I get mighty cranky and I'm sure they could label it as "hate speech." But I'm clearly not attacking their identity, just their bloody-minded stupidity.
Grinnin' Ferret