🎓 Doc Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@qoto.org

Just to give you an idea of how bad the whole "we block anyone who doesnt block who we block" has gotten, someone sent me this:

https://www.patreon.com/posts/74474015

I would **love** to give M.A a script that goes over all the instances in the fediverse and alerts them of every instance that doesnt follow the exact same block list as them and spit it out. I'm sure they will realize they have to block 99% of the fediverse... its getting laughable at this point.

@phil appreciate it, we are good on money. What we need are people offering up some time.

@phil im trying to work on a better technological solutionn as we speak.. i have some ideas its mostly about findingn either the time, or a person with time, to do it. I reached out to a mstodon dev to pay them to help with out code... lets see if it works out.

@garmark93 QOTO has a unique feature, where you can quote the post.. I need to test it but if you use that i thinnk you can CW it.

That said people can filter by hashtag and keywords.. Some people excessively CW but its become unnecessary. My recommendation is to leave CW for things that arent safe for work, spoilers, etc. Leave the filtering to the user to decide.

That said im sure some people might disagree with me here.

@inspired

Let me see if i follow the logic here... The idea is that lots of people need to block an instance to make sure an instance that doesnt block them might not get a message from them before realizing they want to block them?

For starters before I address that directly, is that concern a valid justification to put people of the LGBTQ community in physical danger? I'd say not. I mean onen person sees one message from the server, and then blocked, yes its a shame they had to see it, but is that very minimal edge case worth putting peoples lives in danger.... thats a huge stretch for me.

Keep in mind there are also global block lists they can subscribe to. Things get on fediblock pretty damn fast so if the user uses fediblock locally the chances of that even happening are exceedingly small.

@jud

@lucifargundam Looks down at his penis.... Ohhhhh so thats what that thing is!!!

@garmark93 I am very happy to hear that! Look forward to getting to know you.

@jud I beleive we already achieved it,l partly thanks to how the fediverse works.

Sincne you can block servers and not just people if you want to be safe from harassment all you have to do is block a dozen or two servers and your problem is solved. You can even import this as a CSV and do it in literally 20 seconds.

So the risk isnt really there, if you want to be isolated from harassment and otherwise not see it, just click a button and bam you are done. If you want to be able to monitor the bad actors, then keep it open. The choice is yours, there is really no reason for an admit to force your hand in either direction.

I really have to say, of all the mass exodus onto this server we had over the years, this is one of the best. the quality and kindness of our new users are absolution exceptional. I appreciate all of you and welcome to the sane part of the internet!

@thekazath I am happy to hear that, and it is great to have you here.

@DrK What a cutie!

@WhatYouMcCallit It is my pleasure, and it is wonderful to have you here.

So someone messaged me privately and asked how absolute this is.. like would we block an instance calling for genocide. I feel my response is import to reiterate here, so here it is:

Its not just about the authorities, it is about the people whose lives are at risk by that call to genocide having the right to see those posts and use that information to look out for their own safety... If someone is doxed, they should know, if someone is threatened, they should know, and they should be able to take action.

Someone saying violent things online doesnt guarantee some police officer will meander by and take them down. The law only tends to get involved once someone is reported, and sometimes not even then. No one will be reporting a site if no one can see or know it is there.

The question is, if someone is being physically threatened and having their life in jeopardy how are you helping them by blocking the privileges of the **victim** and disallowing the victim the right to see the threat placed against them?

In short, I refuse to take away rights from the victim simply because there is a violent bad actor out there. If the victim doesn't want to see it they simply need to import the block list and the problem is solved for them, so why not keep the power in the victims hands?