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@mathlover @Romaq

This happened to a few instances in the past.. what happens is a trojan-net bot signs up for an account here and makes either a post or in theri description posts an IP address, that ip address is the control address for the net. The result is that when this happens we get put on malware lists... happened to qoto once and we had to scour EVERY user till we found it and delete the user.. happened to a dozen other instances too.

How recent was this, can you link me to any sources so i can start looking for this.

@TimothyLaurent the ego of that man to think that everyone follows him and interacts with him and isnt somehow biased to be just the people prone to agree with him... but yea, that could be why :)

@emma Of course, I dont think anyone was saying that all people on single user instances are decent people... at least I wasnt.

@emma

I think you misread the tread... no one was saying the original poster wasnt being a decent person. we were discussing the merits of a single use instance and why people who arent decent people might gravitate towards one.

@trinsec @Biggles @bolapara @frayoshi

@Alaskanviking In that case you arent even on QOTO's peertube instance so I cant help you,

@Biggles

Honestly most of that is a nonissue for me. The new people are all a complete joy, serious, we havent had tto ban not one bad actor yet, its extraordinary! the costs are not even noticeable for me (I am very lucky). The only issue tht ever crops up is the toxicity of a few nasty instances... some faux good guys who throw around the nazi label, and some legit bad actors who are wanna be nazis, swastika and all... Luckily the toxic instances are a minority here on the fediverse, but as the admin I deal with them constantly and it is draining.

@frayoshi

@frayoshi

I'd be much happier if we all just try and listen to eachother... but if we cant do that, sure, ill settle for everyone listening to me :)

@Biggles

@Biggles

Being a decent person on a tolerant instance is the best solution, yea... probem is there are so many toxic instances you can be a decent person and still loose it all. so pick your instance carefully :)

@emma @bolapara @frayoshi @trinsec

@Biggles

Yes, but there is a difference.

If your instance admin bans you you loose all your post history, cant transfer to anotther instance and, at least under your old identity, are blocked from ALL servers and all your followers.

On a single user instance when someone or a group of instances block you thenn only those instances block you. You can always just migrate and get a fresh start (perhaps even to a new single user instance) or stay where you are and be blocked only by a subset of the fediverse and continue to operate.

@trinsec @frayoshi @emma @bolapara

re: kiwifarms, suspend list scraping 

@wouldinotcallmyselfahumanbeing

One would hope that their claim of being againstt the "hate" (which doesnt really exist but they seem to think it does) would be their motivator. They may not want to be part of the community, but they also claim to not want to see hate thrive, so... yes

@freemo @trinsec @DecaturNature @frayoshi :blobcatthinking: That's a very fair reason. It's a shame no one will understand that. It's a bigger shame there's no other way to monitor on Mastodon other than join or federate.

@realcaseyrollins I dunno, I'd say the servers breaking and being unusuable might be a good enough reason in its own right, especially when he gives every indication there is more of that to come.

@Biggles

No one can ban you if you run your own server. No one can force you to adhere to their instance wide block list if you are in charge..

The downside is you have no foice as no one federates with you and your federation footprint is dictated by your size as an instance.

@frayoshi @emma @bolapara @trinsec

re: kiwifarms, suspend list scraping 

@wouldinotcallmyselfahumanbeing

Great, if you see anything objectionable please feel free to report it.

@jeffalyanak @XanIndigo @f0x

@War_Kittens

Its not that there are no other ways, its more so that the other alternatives all put people at risk or inconvience the victims without much benefit.

For example they could use the builtin RSS feeds, problem is many accounts that are masto based dont have them, and this would also expose their IP addresses... They could also use a VPN but if they forgot to use a VPN even once then again, they are at risk... also none of these methods give access to follower only toots.

In the end there are lots of alternatives but all of them inconvenience or harm the victim and really server no purpose.

@trinsec @DecaturNature @frayoshi

@realcaseyrollins To be fair musk has done some legitimately stupid shit... allowing babalon bee on the platform is the least of my concerns.

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