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Since my reply to this post back in 2018 has since been orphaned and helps give context to it, and it was used against me in various circles I wish to re-link the orphaned context that explains the meaning of this post, or at least, the meaning I had intended at the time.

qoto.org/@freemo/1003579522570

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I currently have variables in my algorithmic trading program named "cum_return" short for "cumulative return". This brings me pleasure.

@viv Well I kinda agree here but not entierly.

### Disclaimer

Do not take the below as me claiming that free speech is necessary or evil not to uphold. I think there is a great deal of value in tolerance and inclusivity and ejecting abusive elements from a personal space is a perfectly legitimate thing to do. My following statements are of a technical nature on the meaning of free speech as a term and how I interpret your usage in this post.

### Meaning of Free Speech

> For the nth fucking time. Free speech doesn't mean you can say whatever shit you want ... It just means that the state can't take legal action against you.

Free speech is a principle (which can be encoded into law or a personal policy or even the rule of an organization) whereby people are protected to hold any opinion they wish without punitive repercussions. It does not carry over to calls to action, harassment, or similar destructive behavior.

> Free speech doesn't mean you can say whatever shit you want and I have to ... give you an avenue to do so.

Presuming the things being spoken here are a reference to opinions, and not a call to action then as such this would mean, presuming you run an instance, that your server or instance does not employ free-speech principles. That would be true even if you operate out of a country that has free speech laws.

Free speech laws protect you from punitive actions from your government with regard to your opinions. Likewise a free speech instance would protect you from punitive action from your instance for your opinions.

> If I run a coffee shop and you come there and say "murder all the xyz", I can very well ask you to leave

This would not be considered an opinion but rather a call to action. Presuming there is some potential for people to follow this call to action it would not be covered by either legal free speech or a personal policy of free speech.

However if someone said "We would be better off if xyz were all dead" then that would not be a call to action. It would be legally protected in a free speech legal system but likewise if your coffee shop employed free-speech policy it too would be permitted in your coffee shop. If you kicked someone out on those grounds it would be well within your legal rights in a free speech state, but it would mean that you personally are not supporting free speech as a principle.

> because that's not suppressing your free speech.

You **would** be suppressing free speech, but you are legally permitted to suppress free speech in private spaces. Therefore you would not be violating free speech laws despite the fact that you would be suppressing free speech

> Those who don't get it can keep screaming into the void.

I do agree with the fact that a lot of people don't get or understand the nuance here. Many people think that you must enforce free speech in your cafe as a legal right, and you are correct that you are free to suppress free speech. However I think many people who object dont do so because they feel you would be in legal violation but rather because free speech as a principle is the morally right thing to do and by not upholding free speech principles in your cafe you would be in moral, not legal, violation of ones perceived sense of right and wrong.

@freemo I had a mastadon account on a different instance years ago but abandoned it. The recent stuff reminded me why federation is important. Furthermore the UI, software, and terms of use on qoto are IMO much better than most instances I've seen.
While I don't agree with some of my friend's political views I don't like the idea of a huge group of people being censored. It bothered me when platforms like parlor became so popular among them instead of something open like mastodon so I (and probably many people in similar situations) have been encouraging them to find an instance they like and join it.

is seeing a pretty big spike in new user signups this last week. Anyone know whats going on and what is causing the exodus this time? Is this all because all the social media decided to ban trump maybe? It is the only event of consequence I know of.

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@freemo Agreed with that policy it also treats users here as having the ability to do that.

As a stem forum you may find anyone in to psychology may find being able to follow them is useful for their work / research etc.

Hey, anyone out there know where I can find a list of servers that provide adult content?

I have no intention of defederating or blocking any servers on the lit from QOTO itself. I do however want to provide the list to our new users so they have an easy way to block those domains on their personal accounts should they wish to make the timeline safe for work.

Thanks.

An explanation I gave a while back as to why gun statistics generally favor the fact that less restrictive gun laws means fewer violence and homicides.

I basically explain why the typical argument of "countries with more guns have more violence" is inherently anti-scientific as it violates fundamental statistical analysis good practices. Instead we would use statistical causality tests for this, not correlation tests. When we actually look at the data from that perspective it generally shows that countries with less restrictive gun laws effectively lowers a nations homicide and violent crime rates.

Reattached the graphs from that post, but best to click the link to the original post where I go into more detail (the graphs are there as well).

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@hansw@mastodon.social Great I think that will giveus a foundation to work with. So Now ill provide some data, let me explain a bit how the grange...

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Just as correlation isnt how statisticians test for causation with regards to showing guns have a negative effect we cant use it to show a positive effect either.

So while your counter examples do hint at the fact that the correlation isnt implying causation it is mostly just bad statistical reasoning in the same way trinsec's assertion is.

What you need to argue statistical causality formally is a causation test, the most common and simple of these being the Granger Causality Test.

A causality test does not lot, and should not, compare absolute numbers in the way both of you are doing. What they look at is how a change in the theorized causative property (in this case the strictness of gun laws) is **followed by** a change in the observed property (in this case homicides, deaths, rape cases, or generally violent crimes)... If we find that a change in one often leads to a change in the other in the months that follow (how long into the future you look is important) then you can show causation.

In fact I have previously discussed this very topic with @hansw and you can find my explanation of Granger Causality here as it applies to guns along with some examples of it being demonstrated in several major countries that had changes in gun policy. The evidence is strong that stricter gun policies lead to more homicide and violence. I've attached the images from that post here all of which show examples of Granger Causality demonstrating a causative link between stricter gun laws and more homicide/violence.

qoto.org/@freemo/1037666922745

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the awkward moment is i will be forced to self-conquer ptsd which will make me callous to others who will then become upset claiming one does not simply rm -rf and i will glare at them with lightning in my eyes.

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Picture of a outfit during WWII... why am I not even surprised.

The Dutch couldnt be anymore Dutch if they tried!

Kinda hilarious that Qanon weirdos think they’re userbase is going to know anything about alternate decentralized platforms. Best practices for UX is assuming the user is retarded, and the majority of that userbase are already going to be Gen x / boomers who only know how to use Twitter. It’s all going to be memory-holed as those guys age out. Case study in technical illiteracy I guess?

Oh the irony... I do not condone the violence at the capital, I didnt condone the violence from the liberals in the riots either, and I certainly don't condone Obama's track record of murder (which happened multiple US citizens, some were intentional and without due process, and one was a 16 year old kid)

that apparently has multiple nominations for the 2020 Nobel Peace Prize and is one of the candidates being voted on... well this should be interesting.

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